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Tom
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Joined: 26 Jun 2003
Location: Germany/Munich

Posted: Thu Jun 26 2003 20:12 Bassline
Hi all, I just downloaded saine´s "like a sunday"-remix on http://saine.madtracker.net/. An absolute great piece of house-music containing a bassline that sounds like played with a real bassguitar. Many deephouse-tracks have an equal sounding bassline. I don´t believe that all these basslines are created by using a real bassguitar. Does somebody know the ultimate "bassguitar-synthie-VST-plugin? Saine?? Servus, Thomas

Pjo2000
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Australia

Posted: Fri Jun 27 2003 01:21
Steinberg Virtual Bass .. crap RefX Slayer, on E-bass setting with a few modifications and then chucked through, on the otherhand.. will do the trick.
http://www.projectoverkill.com

Pjo2000
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Location: Australia

Posted: Fri Jun 27 2003 01:26
CORRECTION RefX Slayer, on E-bass setting with a few modifications and then chucked through ik multimedia's AMPLITUBE, on the otherhand.. will do the trick. dont know where "ik multimedia's AMPLITUBE" disappeared to in the the last post. I have a habbit of thinking something and then missing great chunks out of a post also a big perpetrator of the "the the" syndrome. pjo2000
http://www.projectoverkill.com

Inge
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland

Posted: Fri Jun 27 2003 08:11
Re: Bassline

Tom wrote:

Hi all,

I just downloaded saine´s "like a sunday"-remix on http://saine.madtracker.net/.
An absolute great piece of house-music containing a bassline that sounds like played with a real bassguitar.
Many deephouse-tracks have an equal sounding bassline.
I don´t believe that all these basslines are created by using a real bassguitar.
Does somebody know the ultimate "bassguitar-synthie-VST-plugin? Saine??

Servus, Thomas

Saine = samplemaster. Lauri goes through endless rows of old jazz records, and takes samples from them. So I do guess (although I'm not certain ofcourse) that he used a 'real' bass guitar. Ask the man, I'd say Smile

Inge

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Tom
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Joined: 26 Jun 2003
Location: Germany/Munich

Posted: Fri Jun 27 2003 17:38
Thanks! Right now I download the demos from both progs. ...ya ya, metal and house music are not as different as it seems...

Big Mo
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Hoogeveen, The Netherlands

Posted: Wed Jul 02 2003 21:58
Re: Bassline

Tom wrote:

I admit: it's a very nice bassline, but it doesn't sound very real, it's just like standard basslines in most popsongs nowadays. I've made remixes (not with MadTracker actually) in which I've played the bass guitar myself, which sound much more real than this one. The bassline in this track could also have been made with samples.
And by the way, this bassline is implayable, you would have to switch too many from the low range to the high range.

Tom
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Joined: 26 Jun 2003
Location: Germany/Munich

Posted: Thu Jul 03 2003 20:34
Ahhh... It´s good to have an opinion here from a "real" guitar player. I didn´t know that such a bassline is implayable on a bassguitar. I try the slayer and amplitube-plugins as recommended by pjo 2000 at the moment. It works fine. Btw. I just found another VST-plugin. It´s the Spectrasonics "Trilogy". 3 GB Bass-Multisamples of bassguitars and synthesizers. But 350 EUR...it´s time for DSL... Servus, Thomas

Sunbuster
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Finland

Posted: Thu Jul 03 2003 22:43
Re: Bassline

Big Mo wrote:

And by the way, this bassline is implayable, you would have to switch too many from the low range to the high range.

or maybe saine is just reeeaaallly good at playing the bass Shocked

Tom
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Joined: 26 Jun 2003
Location: Germany/Munich

Posted: Fri Jul 04 2003 15:58
Saine aka Samplemaster aka Mr. Slowhand

Enonimis
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Canton Ohio, USA

Posted: Thu Jul 10 2003 04:02
Re: Bassline

Sunbuster wrote:

Big Mo wrote:

And by the way, this bassline is implayable, you would have to switch too many from the low range to the high range.

or maybe saine is just reeeaaallly good at playing the bass Shocked

Correction.
Ever hear of Tony Levin or Trey Gunn?
Example: King Crimson - The World's My Oyster Soup Kitchen Floor Wax Museum
towards the end of the song Tony Levin plays a midi fretless 8 string bass "the stick". Sounds like synth piano. Check it out. I dare you!

cheers,
~Enon

If you do not agree with my opinions, you are wrong. If you do agree with my opinions you are drunk.
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mikx
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Melbourne

Posted: Wed Jul 16 2003 04:22

Quote:

I've made remixes (not with MadTracker actually) in which I've played the bass guitar myself, which sound much more real than this one.

hmm.. am i to assume a real bass guitar sounds more real than sampled bass guitar?? i don't believe it!!!

Cool

-mikx

Tom
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Joined: 26 Jun 2003
Location: Germany/Munich

Posted: Wed Jul 16 2003 21:33
hmmm... It depends on how long the sample is.

Big Mo
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Hoogeveen, The Netherlands

Posted: Sun Jul 20 2003 13:22

mikx wrote:

hmm.. am i to assume a real bass guitar sounds more real than sampled bass guitar?? i don't believe it!!!

Cool

-mikx

Yeah, I'm sure of that. When I play a bass guitar track, you can always hear the clicking of the fingers on the frets, the way you play with your right hand (fingers, nails etc.) and that sort of real sounds. And, of course, the human timing can be heard.

mikx
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Melbourne

Posted: Sun Jul 20 2003 14:33
haha i was being sarcastic... mikx

saine
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Finland

Posted: Thu Jul 24 2003 19:39
hey, glad you liked the track. well, the bassline in like a sunday is originally recorded from a real bassguitar (yes, with real string noises and everything ) and then cut up into pieces, and the final basslines are tracked using those clips. this is my preferred way of working, cut 'n' paste. the bass sound is then run through a compressor, eq and stuff to get the sound right ("right" meaning "not so real" in this case) oh, and something i want to point out: using samples does not automatically mean it can't sound real (like a sunday not being the best example of this, of course) in some cases, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between sampled and not-sampled. it's all so relative. (of course in Most cases, sampled stuff doesn't even get close to real. )
saine:tokyodawn.org

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