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Yannick
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28 2005 23:22    
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Yes, but think about the listeners (and the reviewers) who'll have to download the plugins.

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Inge
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28 2005 23:39    
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If there are more like TNK, then we should definately consider increasing the amount of plugins. Nevertheless, I personally also find that Elijah's point is true. Or, to quote any past girlfriend: "oh, Inge, it's not the size that matters, it's what you do with it!".

Well. Nevermind that. The thing is that approximately 20 plugins can already cover quite a spectrum of possibilities, and therefore styles. If anything obvious is lacking, then we'll just add it. Don't worry, start voting!

P.S.: before this debate is going nowhere: please give examples of plugins that are *necessary* to create a certain style. Debating hypothetical problems doesn't lead anywhere. No offence, but I just wish to debate real problems, not hypothetical ones.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29 2005 01:26    
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Inge wrote:

P.S.: before this debate is going nowhere: please give examples of plugins that are *necessary* to create a certain style. Debating hypothetical problems doesn't lead anywhere. No offence, but I just wish to debate real problems, not hypothetical ones.


Exemples :
- Kjaerhus chorus --> Required to make nice guitar chords sounds (with tracked guitars, I mean). If you have other tips on how to acheive such a sound without that plugin (or without any other), let me know.
- The Simulanalog guitarsuite --> Any better free guitar amp around ?

I understand that, because of reviewing needs, the list of available plugins has to be narrowed down. But why narrowed down to 10 ? Couldn't it be more ?

We could atleast have 1-2 plugins of each kind in the selection (exemple : 1-2 choruses, 1-2 compressors, 1-2 guitar amps, 1-2 substractive synths,...).

Besides this, I've already casted my votes (in the plugins page this time)


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03 2005 22:33    
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votes casted on plugins that can be gotten only in a pack with other plugs will mean standalone casts (to that specific plug) or a vote on the whole pack (so all plugs from there can be used)? i`m for the latter Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04 2005 12:32    
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I vote for no plugins. Old school rockers unite.


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Yannick
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05 2005 11:51    
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oldbrian wrote:
votes casted on plugins that can be gotten only in a pack with other plugs will mean standalone casts (to that specific plug) or a vote on the whole pack (so all plugs from there can be used)? i`m for the latter Smile


I suppose you refer to the Classic series? Yes, if a plugin is part of a pack, we won't alter the original packaging - so all the plugins will be there. I didn't really think about that when I announced the voting.

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Elijah
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07 2005 02:31    
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binärpilot wrote:
I vote for no plugins. Old school rockers unite.


haha... sweet. Razz

That's like the parents saying "Rap isn't really music!" Razz


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Frazze
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10 2005 10:18    
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I can see why TNK wants more plug-ins, but I myself only ever use like 5 plug-ins (synths and effects).

15-20 VSTs is what I'd go for.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22 2005 09:09    
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I am very new to plugins, so I basically don't know what I need. The plugins I am using right now might as well be wrong for others that have tested "all there is to test" and found out which works and perform best in overall.

So, if I throws in some votes now, I might screw it up totally for the really good plugins that someone else voted for.

- I think I'll leave the voting to the pro's. Smile

(And btw, listen to your parents: rap isn't music!)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25 2005 18:13    
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MagnarTBL wrote:

(And btw, listen to your parents: rap isn't music!)


i could fight this till the cows came home

start a topic, i dare you.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26 2005 21:27    
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why in god's name,is vst added in madtracker?
Will i be abble in the future to keep using the tracker,or will madtracker be in the future a programm like fl studio,reason,cubase etc......Sad



please keep the tracker section,i hate vst and i never use it or will use it in the future:)


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26 2005 21:29    
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binärpilot wrote:
I vote for no plugins. Old school rockers unite.
Laughing


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Inge
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26 2005 21:35    
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xenomorph disturbance wrote:
why in god's name,is vst added in madtracker?
Will i be abble in the future to keep using the tracker,or will madtracker be in the future a programm like fl studio,reason,cubase etc......Sad



please keep the tracker section,i hate vst and i never use it or will use it in the future:)


No one forces you to use vst plugins. Yannick is pretty hardcore concerning the tracker-interface, so he'll probably won't simply give that up. Just neglect the green&red-vst button. You might wanna typ-ex that area blank.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26 2005 21:39    
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if the tracker area stays,i'm satisfied Cool
i just want to have the feeling that i do things myself,and not the programm,if you know what i mean Very Happy

in other words,i take the bycicle(or is it bicycle? Razz ),others take their car...


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Elijah
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27 2005 04:09    
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haha. this could turn into a whole thread...

vst's are great to use for solid synths with good volume and filter envelopes. for those of us poor saps that can't sample from our own hardware synths. I personally like vst because i can create my own sounds instead of searching days/weeks looking for that *one sample*.

but on the other hand some like to do it oldschool.


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