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bigandymac
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12 2005 02:07    
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Hi everyone

Ive been writing a new hard trance track recently which i think has turned out ok.

http://am1.madtracker.net/AM-1_Unnamed.mp3


Its a first draft so there are a few unfinished bits on it and the structure definately isnt staying as it is. everything is done in madtracker apart from quickly running it through t-racks for compression and limiting.
If anybody has any comments or suggestions on how to improve it i would greatly appreciate the help.

Thanks in advance

andy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13 2005 21:33    
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hello, very nice trance tune, i like it ;D
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Inge
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14 2005 19:53    
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It's a bit too much swirling and moving. Too spaceous, if you please. Then again: I'm the same author who would not hesitate to push the button that says 'make Tiesto and Armin van Buuren stop dj'ing and producing records'. I'm somewhat biased, to say the least. Then again: this swirling character removes a clear and transparant identity of the track. In my ears it's a lot of sound that does a lot of things.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14 2005 21:13    
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Yeah, I'm partly with Inge on this in that there's too much moving around.

I like the swirling on one hand. I like the melody on the other hand. What I'm not too fond of is the combination of the two. I think it is the combination that is making this track a bit undefined and lacking in clarity. At roughly 3/4 into the track for instance there is a long segment where what I guess is the lead get's totally drowned in all the sawtooths and whatnot. I therefore have two suggestions:

1. Remove the melody bit, make the whole track about the swirling and interleaving of various soundscapes. Of course, you'll still need some sort of melody unless you want to make a HC industrial techno track. But what I would do in this case is to make the melody much simpler. Don't have it running around over a whole octave. Instead keep it at a few notes.

2. Remove the swirling, make the track about the melody, make the melody clearer and more centerstage. Again, the swirling can stay, but should be reduced a lot from it's current presence. In other words, cut down on the sawtooths, powersynths etc.

I like the drums in this track, they have a good drive and are suitable for this kind of music imo. Just hope that in the final version we'll hear a bit more variation to the patterns Wink And don't get me wrong, I think this track has a very good base to build from Smile
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bigandymac
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14 2005 21:55    
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hmmm, maybe i went a bit crazy with the filters. thanks very much for the help gentlemen. Ill have a go at improving it now.

cheers

andy
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Inge
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14 2005 21:58    
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We *will* get mentioned on the back of the 12", won't we? Ah, please? I promised it to my grandparents.


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bigandymac
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15 2005 22:42    
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i suppose so. seeing as you asked nicely. Very Happy
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binärpilot
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17 2005 02:22    
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No! Andy! Hard trance?! *takes out the holywater* Someone hold him down, quick, before it's too late!


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bigandymac
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17 2005 10:28    
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priest: "the power of christ compels you!"

me: "huh? where am I? I did what? hard... trance...? oh my god. oh my god."

its good though isnt it.

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binärpilot
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17 2005 11:54    
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It probably is, I know you have skills, but my religious convictions prevent me from listening to it.

(It's good as far as trance goes, but don't tell anyone I said so, I fucking hate trance)


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bigandymac
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30 2005 01:01    
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ive been playing around with this track for a couple of weeks and nearly have it finished i think. thing is, ive heard it so many times over that period that i cant trust my judgement. the link is here:

http://am1.madtracker.net/AM-1_Unnamed2.mp3

In my opinion the melodies (particularly at 6:12), bass, and percussion are all good, but i think it sounds like maybe too much is going on. please can you help me out with any opinions or tips?

thanks very much in advance for your help

andy Very Happy
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troy1818
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30 2005 21:09    
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I really like this tune!

Something worth commenting is that the drive in the bassdrum is very poor. The bassdrum should be much louder and all the other drumsounds should be lowered.

I really like the shift in the chorus. Really like it, damn! Smile

Greeeat!

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bigandymac
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05 2005 22:06    
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i like the chorus change too. ill beef up the drum tonight.
thanks for your comments.

andy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14 2005 12:13    
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Must admit I am truely becoming a AM1 fan...!

Been listening to a lot of your works lately, and it is impressive! You got good skills using the filter effects, which I think applies to me the most. Smile

Keep on tracking, mate!

/M
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bigandymac
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21 2005 02:41    
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Ive finally finished this track (its taken about 2 months). Ive beefed up the bass drum, replaced a rubbish sound effect with white noise, sorted all the levels etc and im happy at last. heres the link...

http://am1.madtracker.net/AM-1_Future.mp3

please let me know what you think of my final version.


Thanks in advance

Andy
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