QBical
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Location: Utrecht , The Netherlands
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 Posted: Mon Oct 10 2005 09:52
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hey all,
This morning I was reading our local tv-guide 'vpro gids' and there was an article about an website wich samples realy old and obscure instruments, and let people download them and mix them into there tracks.
Now what was funny is that in the part where the software was listed with wich to make the mixes, madtracker was called...
It said : 'You can use programs like Ableton Live, Reason, or Cubase. But you can also use free programs like Madtracker or Fruity Loops...
nice eh!
Funny it is though that niether Madtracker or Fruityloops are free if you want to export to wave and thus to MP3 to upload it at there site...
Butanywyaz I thought it was nice, and it is on the sample site to!
Inge are you behind this, or is Madtracker realy making a name for itself by being the great sofware it is!
Grtz
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Yannick
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Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon Oct 10 2005 09:58
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Hey, that's pretty nice! 
Actually, MadTracker can be considered as free. There's no nag, it never expires and it's fully functional (you can save your whole work). Only thing is that you can't save as WAV. So, compared to most music softwares, MT is pretty free. 
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Inge
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Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland
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Posted: Mon Oct 10 2005 10:01
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Haha! That's pretty cool! I heard about the initiative. Who wrote the article? Might see if something is possible with that concerning an organized co-op between vpro and mt  |
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TOffe
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Posted: Mon Oct 10 2005 12:45
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about the samples, can you use those for anything or is it just for that site or something? I mean can I ex: use it in the mt2 compo? |
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QBical
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Posted: Mon Oct 10 2005 19:19
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yes you can, if you ever use it for something you must report that the samples came from : '3voor12's muzeum plunder'
Grtz
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Inge
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MC Project
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Posted: Wed Oct 12 2005 20:43
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Sorry to be rude, but this is nothing special really...
MadTracker already has a name in The Netherlands including proffesional producers and amateurs...
The only reason there is not a good breakthrough is the lack of features. If it did had the features a lot of people in the underground scene would be using MT... |
Sure......I am the MCP....Or just MC...Uhmmm...I make battle music...There....That is more then enough... |
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QBical
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Posted: Wed Oct 12 2005 22:05
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I don't see what more features you would need to work with madtracker in a 'professional' way. Please enlighten me on that
I think the only problem those people have is with the tracker part of the program. Most people are only using matrix editors and can't work with the tracker interface, that's whats scares them... |
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Inge
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Posted: Wed Oct 12 2005 23:05
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| QBical wrote: |
I don't see what more features you would need to work with madtracker in a 'professional' way. Please enlighten me on that
I think the only problem those people have is with the tracker part of the program. Most people are only using matrix editors and can't work with the tracker interface, that's whats scares them...
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That, and the unprofessional image surrounding trackers. After all, they were the tool of the underground producers. Normally, going professional meant going to hardware & midi, and therefore out of trackers. Nowadays, this border is virtually absent, but the idea still exists. Going professional = going out of trackers. Quite saddening, since there are quite some 'releasing' artists who use tracker as their primary or secundary tool for composition and production. |
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MC Project
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Posted: Thu Oct 13 2005 02:45
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Well, it is true that tracking is considered 'unprofessional'. I also despise VST plugins:
1) I hate to sort the damn things.
2) Using 2 VST Plugins already makes my computer crash...
3) A lot of VST plugins suck...
4) The one that ARE good, cost money, a lot of money, for what they actaully can...
5) The sound they give sounds to fake for me, with a few exceptions...
6) Buttons, buttons and more buttons. Click here, click there, hold your mouse button and move it 2 millimeters here and working with commands seems really frustrating to me...
That is what I can think of straight away. What people want is a music program with everything they need. Like FL Studio. You can transform your sample to something else. It has VST's build in. But then again, it is not appealing to work with. MadTracker gives much more freedom and everything can be reached with very little effort....
If I want to edit a sample, give it a flange, I am forced to use a wave editor. That is what I'd like to see in MT, an advanced wave editor, and a lot of people in my scene would be throwing away their Goldwave if MT would have this...
But let's get to the real point. I think MT would be a very good program when using it together with hardware (haven't tried it yet, but I think it would be the ultimate combination). And indeed QBical, MT has an interface to be scared of. It looks very intimidating, but it isn't really.
I hope I have been clear with the more features thingy. Though, I am aware that MadTracker is a tracker afterall, but still, it would be nice... |
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QBical
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Posted: Thu Oct 13 2005 12:55
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yeah an more advanced wave editor seems nice,maby even one that lets you render VST effects over it like in wavelab for example...
But about the VST = bad idea , I guess that if we continue to discuss this it will turn out into a Hardware vs Software debate, wich is stupid... ( because everyone knows that software is better  )
But realy, VST's come in all sizes you just need to find the ones you like. And if you like none but wish to use one, well get yourself a copy of reaktor or even MAX/MSP and make some yourself |
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LoneStar
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Posted: Sat Dec 10 2005 21:48
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Haw, haw, haw.
Guys, how about some reading/research/learning about the whole VSTi/software/hardware issue before complaining or even ranting about anything you may know for only a short time (which means lack of knowledge in most cases). |
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bigandymac
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Location: Leeds UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 11 2005 01:10
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im fine with the fact that trackers have an unprofessional image, it keeps the community smaller and more friendly (ive seen some evil threads on the FL forum). In my opinion trackers are easier to use to produce nicer melodies (for people who dont use a keyboard etc) than piano rolls, and they produce a different sound to FL, reason, cubase etc. Plus it seems that there are a few people who have releases under their belt that use madtracker so it obviously hasnt done them any harm.
vsts do take ages to get into and i hated them at first. but after figuring out the first one all the following ones use pretty similar controls so are easier to learn and it really is worthwhile learning them as they are so flexible.
cheers
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Comatose
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Posted: Sun Dec 11 2005 10:55
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Sounds to me for some it's like trying to find the clitoris!!!
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