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Senate
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Joined: 25 Nov 2003
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25 2003 21:01    
Louder Bass
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Are there any tricks to have bass hit louder? other then making the tone lower.. i know i can increase the volume, but i mean without having to do that.

Thanks!
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Inge
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25 2003 21:16    
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What do you mean by bass? An actual bass drum, or a bassline like a sine?

The relative volume of a bass drum can be increased by volume maximise it (such as the dx/vst plugin wave ultamaximizer), but it won't do the characteristics of the bass drum much good. It's better to change the relative volume of the track that holds the bass drum in comparison to the other tracks.

The relative volume of an actual bass line can be increased in two ways:
1: cut off the sample to the lowest frequenty that you would like to use (such as 300 hz for a dnb bassline) and trow your q all the way up.
2: use a bass enhancer (such as the wave max bass dx plugin) to generate additonal bass tones in the same note to get a richer and harder bass sample sound

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Inge


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25 2003 21:25    
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an actual bass line, sorry for being so vague.. Thank you, your help is greatly appreciated.. Where can i find these programs, and are they hard to use?.. Im not computer illiterate, as ive been goofing around making beats, i just am getting adjusted to it.. Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25 2003 21:26    
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if you wouldnt mind. If you have aim, and wouldnt mind answering any questions that might arise. I would GREATLY appreciate it! Thanks again. Im gonna read a few tutorials when i get home to
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25 2003 21:28    
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Let me put it this way: you'll need to be one determined professional musician to actually pay for the Wave plugin pack. That's all I'll say for now Smile
They aren't hard to use if you are used to using audio programs in general. In the end, it's all knobs, faders and numbers. That's all Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25 2003 21:28    
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BTW i understand the program, as i can make a beat. i understand how it works. Just trying to figure out how to stop a sound right after it hits.. Ive seen my friend do it. Its alright though im not worried. I give it 2 days before i make something i like! Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25 2003 21:48    
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alright thanks for the tutorial.
But all i could find is the shortcuts for copy and pasting tracks and patterns.. (that helps)..
But i still cant find how to do it exactly..I mean it shouldnt be that hard? i dont understand what im doing wrong.

I start at the first track at the top left select and drag mouse until i have all tracks covered.. Copy, then paste in the appropriate pattern i want..It still doesnt work, what am i doing wrong. Ive had no problems doing anything on computers really as of yet...Atleast not anything this ridiculous lol!!!.. Thanks again for the help
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25 2003 21:55    
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Before i posted i looked through all of the tutorial, every side menu.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25 2003 22:37    
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1: With ctrl-f4 / ctrl-f5 you can copy / paste a complete pattern at once.
Try control-f4 on the pattern you want to copy (without selecting anything), and control-f5 on the page where you want to paste it. Does that work?

2: With alt-f4 / alt-f5 you can copy / paste the selected block.
Use alt-f4 when you selected the area that you want to copy, and use alt-f5 on the pattern where you want to paste it. Does that work?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26 2003 00:01    
Stopping sound after it hits
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Hi! It`s me BeatMax I am the author of the tutorial. You can stop the sound using several methods:

1. Insert a key-off note (CAPS LOCK) will look like this "---". There you can be sure that the note is really stopped.
2. You may set the volume in the volume column to zero like this:

Note V E FX FX_2 (V=Volume)
C-4 1 80 -- -- ----
C-4 1 00 -- -- ---- <- set to Zero here

This way it will seem to have stopped using low volume.

I hope I could help you so far. If there are still problems, feel free to post them. Everyone will help you Wink

Enjoy Tracking! ....

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26 2003 22:04    
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Thanks alot! You guys answered the only questions i have so far...I pretty much got a rough understanding of everything else. I'll let you know how it goes. thanks again!!
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Big Mo
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26 2003 23:39    
Re: Louder Bass
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Senate wrote:
Are there any tricks to have bass hit louder? other then making the tone lower.. i know i can increase the volume, but i mean without having to do that.

Thanks!


For some bass sounds I simply use a limiter (especially for real played basslines/notes), it will make the most important frequencies in the sample have the same volume. And if it lacks a special frequency (i.e. sub bass - 40-100 Hz), you can boost that with a parametric equalizer.
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Pangea
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27 2003 08:31    
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Hmmm try this...

C-4 1 60 60 -0 -e51 | C-4 1 60 A0 -0 -e55

This is something of a phase trick but it will also
make the sound richer/louder in many cases, particularly
when using sine wave basses.
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D Vibe
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27 2003 17:09    
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Try using the Filter Track Effect. I've managed to boost up the bass quite much with that one.
Try this setup:

Type: Bi-Peak
Cutoff: Around 500-2500 hz
Resonance: 128 (depending on how much you want to boost)
Width: Around 2500-6500

I have an example of this, but I have no time of preparing it. Maybe later..

/Daniel


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aRGee
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28 2003 17:18    
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Another way to create a fatter sound is adding a flange:

Delay: Around 128
Period: Doesn´t matter
Amplitude: 0

Nice on basslines.
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