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Inge
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 12:08
Guess who accompanied Gwen Stefani in the recycle bin this morning? Inge
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Yannick
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Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 12:08

em22 wrote:

I totally disagree with you here Yannick, the riff is awsome and it doesnt matter that its repeated - the was in which its arranged accounts for everything...

I just like to give credits where it's due.
In this case, I respect Breakwater for the great riff. That's the author of the riff who has talent, not the one who re-used it to make quick money.

I'll always give more credit to artists like you, xiphius, QBical, Inge, TNK, etc. than to Daft Punk.

Yannick

em22
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Joined: 06 May 2003
Location: Manchester, England

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 12:13
Im thinking maybe you lot on the european crust just dont like dark dirty music like us northern enlgish guys can i ask your opionions of mylo - drop the pressure? (sounds of people booting limewire and tapping away....)
em22

em22
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Joined: 06 May 2003
Location: Manchester, England

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 12:16

Yannick wrote:

I'll always give more credit to artists like you, xiphius, QBical, Inge, TNK, etc. than to Daft Punk.

Yannick

oops, better not take the daft punk as my new inspiration! lol!
heheheheh!!

Inge : I would certainly feel quite honoured to bin in your bin! lol! Thats sounds like where the party's at!

em22

Inge
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 12:17

em22 wrote:

Im thinking maybe you lot on the european crust just dont like dark dirty music like us northern enlgish guys Very Happy

Come on over to Holland, and I'll let you have a look around in my collection of darkstep, metal, and breakcore. Don't forget your earplugs!

[yes! let's start the 'I'm cooler than you are, because I listen music that is cooler than you do!' thread.]

Inge

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xiphiuz
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Joined: 08 May 2003

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 12:22
mylo, it�s a nice track, but he rips as well... all those artists can make a nice groove, but as I have to agree with Yannick totally. the original artist has the talent! It�s very often that talent/music is misunderstood by people who are in the age category 10-25. f.e. sometimes some tracks of mine are played in clubs. Only older women and guys are dancing on my tracks. Most younger people say: " I haven�t seen this on MTV, so it sucks, I won�t dance, " The DJ (if it�s a sucky DJ) thinks: bad record... :S ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ in my case: it�s music not talent You all should listen to: (just one example) Dr. Break - 1983 from http://www.shiver-productions.com/ that�s underground! http://members.home.nl/fbbarth/mature%20beats%20-%20different%20stagesmaster.mp3 (is a track of mine btw ) it�s a little bit of both i guess, commercial and underground...
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em22
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Joined: 06 May 2003
Location: Manchester, England

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 12:23
Would never say anything like that breakcore?! another pigeon hole!! Im quickly adding that new genre to my wimanp so i can keep up to date... Have you anything you would recommend i should have a listen to? Would gladly open my ears to anything decent.... oh, and my productivity at work today is about 0.01%... Bloody forums!... xiphiuz : I've had a listen to your track, lovely arranagement, great production but uninspiring run of the mill trance. That is really the cleche european sounding trance that people refer to, in england we just arent big fans of it. Great work all the same though - to the right audience im sure they would love it. Im not saying i have every written anything which was better, but i know what i like
em22

xiphiuz
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Joined: 08 May 2003

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 12:49
thanks em22, you never go to tangled at the phoenix?

QBical
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Utrecht , The Netherlands

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 19:10
Mylo is good for sure... But still his music sounds better when remixed A little side note on the eric pryhds track... The 'original remix' was done by thomas bangalter , who is one of the guy's from daftpunk, and DJ Falcon. So eric ripped that remix and released it under it's own name. I have the thomas remix for around on my HD for about 3 years now Strange as things go Gtz Ray
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TNK / ATK project
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Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: Village-Neuf, France (Dont's search on the map, it's tiny...)

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 21:24

Yannick wrote:

I just like to give credits where it's due.
In this case, I respect Breakwater for the great riff. That's the author of the riff who has talent, not the one who re-used it to make quick money.

Usually those people are not credited but...well paid. A few years ago, a house act called Superfunk released several smash hits, making them earn more than 1 million euros... but as their whole music consisted of sampled riffs, they had to pay the royalties for using them, and at the end, they could only keep 5000 euros for themselves (Smash hits are no longer what they were Sad

)

The trick those people use is also that often people do not know the originals. I didn't knew S.Winwood's "Valerie" track before and therefore, quite na�vely I must admit, tought E.Prydz's track was indeed his one (altough I had some suspicions, as the whole stuff sounded more like a remix of a hit of the 80's)

This raises the question of art within Sample-based music. Check out http://www.downhillbattle.org/3notes/ - You'll see you can be pretty creative, even using an existing riff (Check out the entries carefully, several quite known madtrackers took part to this project)

Yannick wrote:

I'll always give more credit to artists like you, xiphius, QBical, Inge, TNK, etc. than to Daft Punk.

Well, thanks Smile

Quite strangely, the guy behind the desk at the bank thinks Daft Punk desserves more credit than I do...*

QBical wrote:

A little side note on the eric pryhds track...
The 'original remix' was done by thomas bangalter , who is one of the guy's from daftpunk, and DJ Falcon. So eric ripped that remix and released it under it's own name. I have the thomas remix for around on my HD for about 3 years now Smile

If E.Prydz simply ripped off Bangalter's remix without paying him, I think he'll get into serious trouble as Bangalter's lawyers are not really cool guys with people stealing his work (and royalties).

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QBical
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Location: Utrecht , The Netherlands

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 22:33
I guess he and falcon get a fair amount of royalty's on the 're-release' of the track...
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Walter Vos
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Groningen, The Netherlands

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 22:45

TNK / ATK project wrote:

QBical wrote:

No he won't. It was an underground hit in England on white label. The guys never cleared the sample so it wasn't released officially by them. Mr. Prydz was smart, took and cleared the sample, made his track with it, and released it. It's not like he bought the vinyl, recorded it and released it.

In my opinion he was just smart. Seriously, I'd love to have a hit record like that.

what is hip?

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TNK / ATK project
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Location: Village-Neuf, France (Dont's search on the map, it's tiny...)

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 22:57

Walter Vos wrote:

In my opinion he was just smart.

Sure, but by doing it that way, he still shows how lame he is...

Walter Vos wrote:

Seriously, I'd love to have a hit record like that.

Me too, but I wonder if it could be possible to do such a track WITHOUT sampling anyone. If he had found a singer, composed that "call on me!" riff (or any other cool sounding riff) and recorded it, could it become the hit it became.

In other words : Can one make it in the dance music (or any other musical field) WITHOUT covering someone else ?

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goose
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Joined: 11 May 2003
Location: aroundabout

Posted: Thu Mar 17 2005 10:53

em22 wrote:

Would never say anything like that Smile

breakcore?! another pigeon hole!! Im quickly adding that new genre to my wimanp so i can keep up to date... Cool

Have you anything you would recommend i should have a listen to? Would gladly open my ears to anything decent....

Try these mixes for starters....

http://barnofhell.com/saskrotch_files/livesets.html

Twisted Evil

TNK / ATK project
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Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: Village-Neuf, France (Dont's search on the map, it's tiny...)

Posted: Thu Mar 17 2005 21:35

goose wrote:

Try these mixes for starters....

http://barnofhell.com/saskrotch_files/livesets.html

Twisted Evil

Sounds cool. Which ones do you consider as being the best ?

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