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LoneStar
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Joined: 04 Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Germany

Posted: Thu Mar 03 2005 22:11
Re: DON'T WORRY

andrespereyda wrote:

Armageddon will come soon. The Earth will be made back into a paradise. Electronic music will be created with divine technology for thousands of years. No more George Bush, or U.N. No more war, pain, death, old age. Just perfection and life. Ok?

Oh noes, then I'll be jobless! Brick wall

TNK / ATK project
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Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: Village-Neuf, France (Dont's search on the map, it's tiny...)

Posted: Thu Mar 03 2005 23:20
Seems that Bill Gat€$ got a few more enemies : check this out ! BTW, I also spoke of this topic with my cousin who runs an IT company. He told me that if this law passes, the implication for the whole economy would be huge (think again... how many jobs in our society rely on computers ? Even jobs that do not require any programming skills) and that when the common european citizen will be aware of whose responsibility it is (M$, some greedy technocrats in Brussels,...), some people will have to run quite fast !!!
Switzerland : #1 earthquake provider! (Bootyshakin' Willhelm Tell ?!?)

mikx
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Melbourne

Posted: Fri Mar 04 2005 11:31
interesting indeed! hopefully this is seen by most as a bad move on gates' behalf and he ends up being publicly assassinated, or even better, mashed up in a tree-stump grinding machine, then poured into a bowl and eaten by george w bush, who at first enjoys the vivid taste, yet several hours later.. ALSO DIES! but seriously, just out of curiosity - who actually owns the patent for 'tracker' style programs? mikx

Yannick
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Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium

Posted: Fri Mar 04 2005 11:36

mikx wrote:

but seriously, just out of curiosity - who actually owns the patent for 'tracker' style programs?

Nobody, and never anybody will. As there is "previous art".

Yannick

TNK / ATK project
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Posted: Fri Mar 04 2005 19:28

Yannick wrote:

Nobody, and never anybody will. As there is "previous art".

Yannick

The progress bar also is...
...but it is...
...patented Sad

Switzerland : #1 earthquake provider! (Bootyshakin' Willhelm Tell ?!?)

Yannick
MadTracker Author

Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium

Posted: Fri Mar 04 2005 19:45
I thought it was a funny example. Oh dude... Yannick, thinking about moving to Switzerland...

N0N
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Joined: 20 Oct 2003

Posted: Sat Mar 05 2005 02:26
every product in existance is patented, just they can expire and new stuff can be made to do the same thing, just looking different. like the engine, used to be patented by Ford motor inc. then its patented for it expired and all these other companies poped up.

CHICAGO¤lollie
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Joined: 05 May 2003

Posted: Sat Mar 05 2005 12:24

Yannick wrote:

Yannick, thinking about moving to Switzerland...

If for the sake of keeping MadTracker alive, then heck, maybe it'd be worth it. :\

Besides...

TNK / ATK project wrote:

BTW, what about the idea of developping MT (and linux) somewhere else ? Australia maybe ?

Yannick wrote:

I won't move. I was there before. Razz

The smartest choice anyone could ever make in life.
Australia melts stuff. Melts stuff.

With a stick.

Zero2ninE
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Joined: 11 Dec 2003

Posted: Sun Mar 06 2005 14:18
I knew nothing good would come out of that shitty union! I am a programmer myself and I think that the concept of software patents is idiotic. Think of it this way. A carpenter use a saw. A company patents the usage of a saw (mind you, not the design). The carpenter then has to pay royalties each time he uses a saw. So the carpenter then invents a new saw-like thingy, and patents it's use. Another carpenter now has to design his own version of the saw to avoid paying royalties. However this carpenter is not too bright, so to keep his costs down he decides to patent the use of both a hammer and a screwdriver... Imagine, what a great idea that is? If you DO know in what respect this is a plus, drop me a line. Good for the consumer? How so? I cannot start my own company, because everything I think up, most definitely has been thought up and patented, before me! Software patents are designed to sneak in a new kind of monopoly, of software creation. Only the biggest companies can afford to make it. No wonder MS hates the Open-Source community, that is MS' biggest competitor, but it can be killed by software patents. My 2 cents... all sales are final and no refunds! Zero2ninE

TNK / ATK project
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Posted: Sun Mar 06 2005 14:33

Zero2ninE wrote:

Imagine, what a great idea that is? If you DO know in what respect this is a plus, drop me a line.

You know, $oftwar€ patt€nt$ are good.

Thanks to those pattents, enlightend people like Bill Gates can finally be the one and only master of the information age, and definitely crush the evil communists like Yannick or Linus Thorvalds who put their software online for free and/or who promote free music.

Big LOL of course !!!! Smile

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Yannick
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Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium

Posted: Sun Mar 06 2005 15:10
(Moved to General discussion to make sure not too much people actually believe the news headline is true.)

Inge
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland

Posted: Sun Mar 06 2005 15:38
Ha! Denmark has asked to make the item a B-topic, which would atleast delay possible implications of this item. Spain and Poland are thinking to support Denmark in this. If this works, then the voting for coming monday will be postponed.
Care for a game of Monopoly?

mikx
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Melbourne

Posted: Tue Mar 08 2005 11:52
YES! GO POLAND! oh gees, seriously i hope something good comes out of this. from reading zero2nine's description, it really does seem like the most stupid idea.. so who's idea was it? lets throw some blame and feel a bit better about ourselves..

Yannick
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Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium

Posted: Wed Mar 09 2005 10:36

Inge wrote:

Ha! Denmark has asked to make the item a B-topic, which would atleast delay possible implications of this item.

Nice... but rejected. Sad

Yannick

spline
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Joined: 26 Jun 2003
Location: Sweden

Posted: Thu Mar 10 2005 12:54
Well, its not all bad with patents, if you come up with a nice idea for a program that no one has done before. But you don't have any money to make the program you can patent the idea. Once you have a patent you can get money to develop your program as it is protected. This way many people with inovative ideas can get money to develop their programs. So it would not be all bad. There are some rules to what can be patented. It must be a new idea that noone has done before or a new combination of things that makes it a new feature. It also has to be not published anywhere before. If some of these things are true, it is not a valid patent. A patent also have a limited time of 20 years before it is gone. This is good for ordinary inventions. But for software this is to long time. If the time was say 7 years I think it would be good. However if a big player MS decides to steal something, it would be very hard to win a case against them. But the oposite could also be true, that MS pay a license fee if you make a nice software invention they want to use. All in all I´m against software patents but that is because they are valid to long.

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