Tom
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Brian
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Joined: 10 Aug 2003
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Posted: Tue Aug 19 2003 06:31
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Yannick wrote: |
I'd go for a Terratec also. They have a very good quality/price ratio.
And if you ask me, I'd work with Windows 2000.
Yannick
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So.... What do you think of Windows 2003? Did you know about it? |
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Inge
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Joined: 04 May 2003
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Posted: Tue Aug 19 2003 06:49
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It's more meant to be a server, not a home user os. Just go for win2k pro with sp4 or xp with sp1 (depending on your preferences concerning visual layout and tweakability).
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Sunbuster
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Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Aug 19 2003 21:04
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besides, it will probably still be soooooo buggy, you'll restart your computer every 10 minutes just because some eye candy is popping up causing a CPU overrun
and to the hardcore underground win2k using force leader I'll just say: may the grey start button be with you  |
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Blaster
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Joined: 04 May 2003
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Posted: Tue Aug 19 2003 21:18
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I think Win XP pro is better when you tweak the UI.. Just download the TweakUI WIN XP Powertoy and you can recreate the win2000 interface + all the benefits win XP offers. |
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Yannick
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Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium
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Posted: Tue Aug 19 2003 22:22
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I don't know much about Win2003. But if you ask me, any version higher than Win2k is just excessive bloat. If you want to take profit of most of your CPU cycles, don't go for the latest Windows versions.
XP, once heavily tweaked may be okish. But then, just install Win2k and don't mess with tweaks.
Also, Win2k is more secure than XP IMHO.
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Inge
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Posted: Wed Aug 20 2003 00:01
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And 2k doesn't have that stupid activation system, a standard installed program that floods data of your computer usage to massive ms servers, and these stupid popups after a near-fatal crash that are meant to help ms (sure, sure). Ever tried xp's repairfunction? Now that's funny. Furthermore, WHQL is killing me (non-whql drivers - without appearant reason - can get thrown away by 'intuitive' XP) and the people I help at my work, and what is that bloody dog doing in the search screen? Did I choose an OS, or a bloody animal farm?
Sorry, drifting away. Holiday work stops in a few weeks, so than I can go back to simple things. Literature. Communication. Generative syntaxis. No more XP's. Screw them (etc etc ranting ranting).
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mikx
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Thu Aug 21 2003 06:32
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haha!!
i'm upgrading my computer next week, and i think you guys have convinced me to stick with windows 2000. (dual boot with windows 98 if i ever want ASIO drivers for SBLive!)..
would i have to reinstall both operating systems after upgrading? (i'm getting a new mobo, CPU and ram)
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Sunbuster
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Posted: Thu Aug 21 2003 09:26
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yep! At least I'd say it's your safest bet to get a stable system  |
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Fygle
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Joined: 22 Aug 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 22 2003 20:24
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Reinstall mikx, clean slate
Dunno about w2k or 98, but XP required a fresh install. Got a bluescreen after having installed the new motherboard. |
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Inge
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Posted: Fri Aug 22 2003 21:38
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I would always reinstall with a new mobo, but it's kind of necessary with nt4 based os (such as win2k and xp). Although it can work, it will never be truelly stable.
If interested, here's the preferable order of installation:
-strip system to mobo, cpu, memory, graphics card, floppy, hdd and cdrom. Leave addition pci cards away.
-upgrade bios to latest (non-beta) version
-format c partition to ntfs
-install preferred os
-install latest servicepack
-install latest chipsetdrivers for the mainbord
-install latest drivers for videocard
-add additional cards one by one, install them with their latest drivers, and check for system stability.
Easier is just to plug everything in, install your os and install all drivers in the same session. But one wants to enjoy the night of installing, isn't it? But honoustly, the above sequence is by far the most safe way to do it.
Enjoy,
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Brian
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Joined: 10 Aug 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 22 2003 23:07
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I have a fun story to tell. Once upon a time (er... 6 months ago) I had a computer that I wanted to add more RAM to. It had 1 512MB DDR and I wanted to add another. So... I did, but after a boot-up it went to the background only (at 256 color and 800x600 resolution). That's all it would do. No icons, error messages, that's all. Same with Safe Mode. I replaced the faulty new memory with another, and same results! So many nights were spend reinstalling windows, sometimes it would crash half way through, sometimes not, but would do the background-of-death after install was complete each time. Then I finally figured out the problem! I removed my Maxtor ATA133 PCI card, plugged my ATA133 drive into the motherboard ATA100 slot, and it worked. Figure that one out! |
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mikx
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Sat Aug 23 2003 07:49
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inge, i have two problems with your suggestion...
1- im lazy..
2- i want to install w98 and w2k on one partition, so i can't have NTFS.
so far windows 2000 has not had a single problem with FAT32..
ahhh, i so hate reinstalling shit!! does anyone know how to use norton ghost?
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Yannick
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Joined: 16 Apr 2003
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Posted: Sat Aug 23 2003 09:00
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For general use, FAT32 is preferred. It is faster than NTFS.
Also, make a dedicated swap partition in FAT16 (1 GB or something) for better performances.
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Inge
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Posted: Sat Aug 23 2003 11:21
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Yannick wrote: |
For general use, FAT32 is preferred. It is faster than NTFS.
Also, make a dedicated swap partition in FAT16 (1 GB or something) for better performances.
Yannick
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Never heard of that, but I only give pure technical support at work for stable systems, not for audio-dedicated machines. Nice to read such a thing: I'm upgrading my system by the end of the month, so I might try such a thing. I will stick to NTFS though, but the 1 gb fat16 partition might be worth trying. Is that partition going to be the general temp directory for all music programs? Please...enlighten me!
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