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em22
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Joined: 06 May 2003
Location: Manchester, England

Posted: Tue Mar 15 2005 21:01 Daft Punk - Human After All
I recently find myself gobbling up as much quality music as i can feed into my brain and this time round i'd like to recommend daft punks new album. Those of you who remembered Homework (which was absolutly awesome) will be please to know that Daft Punk have gone back to their roots with a more earthy and ruff sounding album - I was too keep on the Discovery album - but this is a an excellent treat - oh f*ck!!! Robot rock is on, jesus!!!! Go buy buy buy!!!
em22

Yannick
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Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium

Posted: Tue Mar 15 2005 21:33
Robot Rock consists of a lengthy copy/paste of a funky sample on top of which they added a modern beat. In other words, a crap track. Daft Punk is now a lot more a name than quality music IMNSHO. So I'm afraid to not have the same taste as you this time. Yannick

Inge
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland

Posted: Tue Mar 15 2005 22:15
The first two tracks are excellent, eventhough not as strong as their previous anthems. The rest of the album is quite weak. I did read a lot of positive reviews. I'm afraid it's the LCD Soundsystem syndrom: if you're a hype, then the reviews will be hyped, discarding how the album actually sounds. But okay. I'll listen the album again tonight. Inge (who listened this Gwen Stefani thing once, and then ctrl-deleted it)
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QBical
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Utrecht , The Netherlands

Posted: Tue Mar 15 2005 22:23
some nice tracks indeed but all have the same synth sounds and same idea's behind them. The guy's made this record in a week or 2, you can hear it... The first track is nice though, and I like to spin 'Technologic' for a crowd. That's the to tracks on the album I like... The original robot rock is indeed a neat job of copypasting but have you guy's checked out the soulwax remix yet? That one is awesome!! /me goes back listining to the new abe duque album wich is awesome
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Inge
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Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland

Posted: Tue Mar 15 2005 22:40

QBical wrote:

/me goes back listining to the new abe duque album wich is awesome Very Happy

Just read a review about this one. My upload-folder is all yours Rolling Eyes

Inge

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TNK / ATK project
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Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 00:45

Yannick wrote:

Robot Rock consists of a lengthy copy/paste of a funky sample on top of which they added a modern beat. In other words, a crap track.

90% of modern dance music is done that way : Sample some 70's funky loop, add some typical dance beat, and there you are. I tried it out myself, and I must say it works quite well.

Sometimes it's creatively done, but most of the time, it's something one could do in MT in a few minutes.

And I don't even speak of all those pop tracks covered into dance/trance, like DJ Sammy & Yannou's "Heaven" which is a cover of a song by Bryan Adams.

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Yannick
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Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 00:59
And the notorious "Call on me" by Eric Prydz which is a lame repetitive over-compressed rip of "Valerie" by Steve Winwood. 1. Rip an old tune 2. Copy/paste it, add a modern beat and compress it 3. ??? 4. Profit! Yannick
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TNK / ATK project
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Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 01:49

Yannick wrote:

1. Rip an old tune
2. Copy/paste it, add a modern beat and compress it
3. ???
4. Profit!
Mr. Green

Yannick

In fact there are 2 ways around :

1 - Create an original and good track
2 - Go and see an artistic director @ a major company
3 - The artistic director tells you : "Your song is nice indeed, but it is not yet known, so the audiance (and the radio executives, well, mostly them) will not like it"
4 - Back to your everydays life.

or

1 - Rip an old tune
2 - Copy/paste it, add a modern beat and compress it, then go and see an artistic director @ a major company
3 - The artistic director tells you : "Your song is nice indeed, and is even a cover of a melody everyone already knows. The audiance (and the radio executives, well, mostly them) will love it !"
4 - Profit ! (well, less and less as people become more and more aware of the rip of this all is!)

But of course, if the CD sales are dropping, it's because of all those evil .mp3 pirates, and not at all because of the lack of creativity of what the industry nowadays releases...

Hint to the major company artistic directors : All good stuff hasn't been done yet !

BTW, I wonder if they could be fooled by a fake "80's rip off" : This could easily be done that way :
1 - Create your own 80's styled song.
2 - Remix it and claim you remixed an obscure 80's track
3 - Porfit! without ripping off anyone.

Could work after all...

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xiphiuz
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Joined: 08 May 2003

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 08:57
Daft Punk and Eric Pryds... 1. No one else does it, so wtf, they want to earn money and they do. 2. The original of that Eric Pryds track is much much better, but guys who love that kind of music are 25 or up i guess. Eric Pryds targets the youngsters... (= money again) 3. If you don�t like that way, you have to go underground (as tnk says, and see music mainly as a hobby or be �discovered� by a record company, but you eventually will get commercial then) If you do like it, you have to make loads of tracks, because the record company wants you to...(you earn money, but your tracks are in most cases not what you really like to make.) (endless discussion imo)

Yannick
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Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 10:14
Bottomline: commercial music sucks - underground music rocks! By "No one else does it" you mean "Everyone does it", right? These were 2 blatent examples. You can also add Armand Van Helden, Benny Benassi, Stardust, Modjo, etc. But that's true that situation won't change unless we actually start to educate the kids a bit. We often forgot that consumers have the power... Yannick

Inge
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 10:18
Whether I agree or not: don't mess around with Armand van Helden. He made some of the coolest and most danceable housetracks around Relistening the daft punk album at the moment btw. It's really very weak. Like Qbical said: made in two weeks. Flat, blunt, uninspired, non-progressive, and very 'to be predicted'. Ctrl-delete, here I come. Ha! Inge
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xiphiuz
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Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 11:33

Yannick wrote:

By "No one else does it" you mean "Everyone does it", right? These were 2 blatent examples. You can also add Armand Van Helden, Benny Benassi, Stardust, Modjo, etc.

That was very cynical of ... sorry bout that Evil or Very Mad

But it is the truth!

em22
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Joined: 06 May 2003
Location: Manchester, England

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 11:53

Yannick wrote:

Robot Rock consists of a lengthy copy/paste of a funky sample on top of which they added a modern beat. In other words, a crap track.

Daft Punk is now a lot more a name than quality music IMNSHO.

So I'm afraid to not have the same taste as you this time. Wink

Yannick

I totally disagree with you here Yannick, the riff is awsome and it doesnt matter that its repeated - the was in which its arranged accounts for everything...

Have listened intensly to the album over and over and I know exactly what route the daft punk crew have taken.

I thoroughly enjoyed the album, like i said, its back to the homework style basic sounds - which i love.

Not everyone whats light airy beats with chord changes at every hi hat....

Differnet music 4 different tastes!

I mean, what about Remember Me by Blueboy? Wasnt that just the same sample over the same loop??

eh eh ehee??!!

lol

em22

Yannick
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Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 11:53

xiphiuz wrote:

That was very cynical of ... sorry bout that Evil or Very Mad

Ok, np.

Yannick

em22
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Joined: 06 May 2003
Location: Manchester, England

Posted: Wed Mar 16 2005 11:58

Inge wrote:

The first two tracks are excellent, eventhough not as strong as their previous anthems. The rest of the album is quite weak.

I did read a lot of positive reviews. I'm afraid it's the LCD Soundsystem syndrom: if you're a hype, then the reviews will be hyped, discarding how the album actually sounds.

But okay. I'll listen the album again tonight.

Inge (who listened this Gwen Stefani thing once, and then ctrl-deleted it)

Ahh, when i listened to the Gwen Stefani album first time round and i didnt like it, until i listened to it again....

You cannot appreciate an album that is different the first time you listen to it... Especially if its more orginal than you're used to....

em22

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