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Franklin van Uden
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25 2005 08:53    
Convert sample to right BPM ..
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It is quite simple to determine the exact BPM of a sample, BUT , how to adapt this same sample to a diffirent BPM without pitching it up (chipmunks effect Confused ).
Is there a way to get the right bpm without f*cking the vocals etc to much up, i was thinking 'bout an application or vst ?! Or any other way to get it done ... without spending hours and hours cutting the sample in pieces Smile

Anyone ?


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Inge
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25 2005 10:14    
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Acid. It can beatmap a sample, stretch it (without much audible artefacts, although this depends on the amount of stretching done), and works quite intuitively. Downside: it costs money.

I think Audicity will also have a stretch-function. Most wave editors have such a thing. There are also some vst plugins that do such a thing, but I don't advice to do these things realtime.


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Franklin van Uden
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25 2005 11:47    
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Okay,

I'm downloading the free trial of acid and research the possibilities according Stretching.
If i want to use VST for the stretching, i won't be in Madtracker though, realtime stretching would use up to much cpu anyways Wink

I'm wondering , since it's called stretching, if it is possible to convert from lower bpm to higher, anyway i will try the products.

Thanx Inge ...

Edit: With the suggestions of Inge and some googling i've found propellerheads' recycle, like DUH, that's really the app i'm looking for Smile. So i hardly can't wait to drive home and try it ....

But first ... some work has be done over here Sad




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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25 2005 18:09    
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Audacity.
Audacity is free. You must give actual and wanted tempo... and... voila!


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Franklin van Uden
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25 2005 20:29    
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Free is always good Smile , i will give it a try, thanx for the tip!
I have it installed quite a while but didn't really explore the possebillities of it ...

update : KEWL !!!! Very Happy that works like a charm , the only thing is to determe the original BPM , but that shouldn't be the problem ....


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25 2005 21:09    
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Franklin van Uden wrote:
update : KEWL !!!! Very Happy that works like a charm , the only thing is to determe the original BPM , but that shouldn't be the problem ....


Here Acid does miracles. Acid works really nice for this purpose, but then again is dreadfully expensive. The alternative is placing the loop in MadTracker, putting something like a hihat underneath, and check how you should change the bpm to make it fitting. Kinda difficult and time-consuming, but it does the trick.


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Franklin van Uden
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25 2005 21:16    
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Inge wrote:

Here Acid does miracles. Acid works really nice for this purpose, but then again is dreadfully expensive.


So i can email you all my loops/samples to convert them for me ? Laughing ... Since i'm just a poor old ict dude who can't effort more stuff to buy at this mo Wink

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The alternative is placing the loop in MadTracker, putting something like a hihat underneath, and check how you should change the bpm to make it fitting. Kinda difficult and time-consuming, but it does the trick.


That's exact the way i did it before, now i have an BPM counter who does the trick perfectly ... just a little nifty prog...


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25 2005 23:07    
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a bit offtopic, but...

Have you guys ever listened to some tracks by 'The MFA'?
They use for example short baseline loops of 2 beats long.
Then they play a bassline with it, one note each bar/measure, so the bassline's pitch gets transposed but it isn't stretched so the loop plays out of tempo.
Realy wicked effect, oldschool tracker style, and it funk's like hell Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27 2005 17:08    
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Franklin van Uden wrote:
now i have an BPM counter who does the trick perfectly ... just a little nifty prog...


what a prog?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27 2005 18:14    
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XnmE wrote:

what a prog?


Ooops, sorry for not sharing Embarassed ...

In fact it's a little nifty DSP plugin for winamp , and is rather precise ...

http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=6564

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27 2005 18:16    
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thanx


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