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ahegner
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29 2005 13:37    
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Hi!

I am having an annoying problem with a VST Intrument, and hope that perhaps one of you could give me a hint on how to solve it. I also have to admit that I'm sort of a newbie when it comes to VST and midi.

Ok, here's the situation: In my Song I have a track to which two bass VSTs are assigned (Superwave and EVM Bassline). During my song, I use Superwave for long bass notes, and EVM Bassline for the main beat.

Now EVM Bassline is my problem.

At a certain point in my song, when I want to have the EVM Bassline play again, the "Key off" notes don't act as they should, but are actually played back using the last note value, but at one octave higher(?). Ok, here's how it looks like visually:


Should play like:

"Key off"
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C-3
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"Key off"
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C-3
---
---
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"Key off"
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. . . and so on


Plays like:

"Key off"
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C-3
---
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C-4
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---
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C-3
---
---
---
C-4
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. . . and so on


Note that the firt "Note off" works, as it stops the previously played Superwave. Exactly when this situation is given, I encouter this problem. Is there a command to switch off a VST Intrument (like I can turn a VST on and off manually from each VST-Interface), a specific MidiCC perhaps? Turning the track on and off would also work, but of course only if it could be somehow automated. I tried using a different Track for each of the VST Intruments, but got the same result.

Does anyone understand my question?

Greetings,
Alex
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Martin
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29 2005 14:57    
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Are you using the same channel for the two basses? If, so try to separate them into their own dedicated channels - if this is not the case try to replace the VST and see if the problem is related to one specific VST. If the problem remains even if you have tried other VSTs - try writing here again.

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Ravana
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29 2005 15:36    
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All I can say is that I had similar problems with EVM Bassline when playing notes with my keyboard. When I released the key, the EVM played a note previously played when playbacking my track (yeah you all got it). After playing that same note with my keyboard the problem got fixed... (Not very helpful to you, though...)

http://www.mikseri.net/artists/thejollynekromanseri.51046.php

http://www.mikseri.net/artists/bewaretheconstruct.62202.php

MT source files available if requested (maybe)
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Walter Vos
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29 2005 19:44    
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try using two tracks (1 for each vst's notes and output)

what is hip?

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Sunbuster
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29 2005 20:52    
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Martin wrote:
Are you using the same channel for the two basses?


Walter Vos wrote:
try using two tracks (1 for each vst's notes and output)


and what he said in his post:

ahegner wrote:
I tried using a different Track for each of the VST Intruments, but got the same result.


So, I believe he already did so... Wink

Well, if you can't get the note off to work, maybe you can automate the volume of that instrument to simulate a note off? Also, just for interest, have you tried using those two VST's in the same manner in a clean track to see if the problem reappears there?

EDIT: Another thing that just hit me. Are you routing the output of this track to some other track? I think I remember having similar problems to what you describe when I did that and had some notes playing in the track I was routing to also. Just a thought...
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Martin
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29 2005 22:05    
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Inge, can we ban Sunbuster Wink

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ahegner
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30 2005 16:12    
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Hi again! I am very happy to receive so many suggestions to my problem, thank you all! Very Happy

Ok, I experimented a bit and...

Walter Vos wrote:
try using two tracks (1 for each vst's notes and output)


Yes, it works!!! Very Happy Although I tried using a different Track for each of the VST Basses, I only assigned the VSTi to a new track, keeping the notes from both basses in the same track. I guess I should have been more precise in my explanation. Embarassed

By the way, I also found out that using a second instance of
EVM Bassline Plug-in works too.

Many thanks, and happy new year! Very Happy

Alex
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