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Sunbuster
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25 2006 09:01    
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G3ronimo wrote:
http://www.madtracker.org/wiki/index.php/MadTracker_Compo

who wrote this cause it's HOT


That would be yours truly Wink
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Franklin van Uden
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25 2006 11:13    
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Just an idea but maybe we have to name some of the "products" we want to get in the wiki page, and then ppl can assign themselves to the "products" so that there is some structure. This is also a good way to prevent that ppl are writing about the same thing parralel ?

Anyways it's just an idea Smile


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G3ronimo
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25 2006 12:46    
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Franklin van Uden wrote:
Just an idea but maybe we have to name some of the "products" we want to get in the wiki page, and then ppl can assign themselves to the "products" so that there is some structure. This is also a good way to prevent that ppl are writing about the same thing parralel ?

Anyways it's just an idea Smile


good thing Smile


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Inge
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25 2006 13:33    
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For global structure, e107-wiki uses a nice approach:
http://wiki.e107.org/?title=Main_Page

Feel free to create something similar for the front page.

For pages to come, a stubs page can be made. This is a page that contains links to all pages that need work (either from scratch or till a lesser extend)

Example:
http://wiki.e107.org/?title=Help:Stub

Stubs (if properly implemented, as explained above) are automatically added to the Stubs-page. This way, everyone can see which pages need work to be done.

Example:
http://wiki.e107.org/?title=Category:Stubs


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G3ronimo
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25 2006 13:40    
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Inge wrote:
For global structure, e107-wiki uses a nice approach:
http://wiki.e107.org/?title=Main_Page

Feel free to create something similar for the front page.

For pages to come, a stubs page can be made. This is a page that contains links to all pages that need work (either from scratch or till a lesser extend)

Example:
http://wiki.e107.org/?title=Help:Stub

Stubs (if properly implemented, as explained above) are automatically added to the Stubs-page. This way, everyone can see which pages need work to be done.

Example:
http://wiki.e107.org/?title=Category:Stubs



hmm yeah might be some pointers Smile

I think that we should put all of the help files (like tutorials and stuff)


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Sunbuster
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25 2006 16:12    
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One question: do we aim at moving all the helpfiles to the wiki? In other words, are the tutorials from the left menu transfered there also and will that section disappear then? No use having the info in two places...
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Inge
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25 2006 16:39    
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Sunbuster wrote:
One question: do we aim at moving all the helpfiles to the wiki? In other words, are the tutorials from the left menu transfered there also and will that section disappear then? No use having the info in two places...


Good question. Data at two places also devaluates its value, since differences between two versions will make people doubt which one is the true and correct one.

The advantage of using Wiki-pages for the content is because its easier to keep up to date and expand. The possible problem is that people attach less faith and trust to Wiki-pages. I personally am undecided, although slightly favour wiki due to its community-vibe and the faith I have in the potential of platforms that are constructed by multiple users instead of a strict hierarchy. Yannick?


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Yannick
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25 2006 17:09    
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For the moment, I'd keep the tutorials on the main website.

Yannick
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Franklin van Uden
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25 2006 17:10    
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I've made a little list of guidedlines/pointers:


    - Installation/requirements
    - How to install the registration files
    - setting up soundcards
    - setting up midi devices
    - quick start
    - main configuration window
    - Shortcut keys
    - Using samples
    - Using Midi
    - Using VSTI and VST(effects)/sidechaining
    - setting up rewire in slave mode with .........
    - Pattern editor/track effects
    - The automation window
    - The Sample editor
    - (pre) mastering inside madtracker
    - Rendering a song for cd or mastering
    - About madtracker (Yannick etc.)


Some of the items are in progression.. Maybe it is a smart Idea idea to post on which of the subjects someone is working on Smile

(maybe i forgot some things, those where the things i could think about anyways)


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Franklin van Uden
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25 2006 17:13    
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Yannick wrote:
For the moment, I'd keep the tutorials on the main website.

Yannick

A link from wiki to the Tutorials would do the trick Smile so it's central manageable (<- strange word Very Happy) and just put additions into the Wiki page ....


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G3ronimo
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25 2006 18:13    
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Yannick wrote:
For the moment, I'd keep the tutorials on the main website.

Yannick


I seriously disagree and agree with Inge, everything is easy to be updated, and there is a so called "community vibe" indeed, but also everyone can add pointers, tips etc.

I think that both would do Smile (wiki and MT mainsite)

the one at Wiki should be ofcourse waaaay more extended, some MTuser in the IRC channel once said "it barrely scratches the surface" and I agree... I didn't understand the programm at first... I got some help from a dude...


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Ravana
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26 2006 09:14    
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I was wondering, should there also be an explanation of certain things... Like the filters. I mean, what actually does a filter do? Low-pass and high-pass are clear for anyone I guess, but what the heck is bi-notch, for example? Or peak?

(I would do it myself, but I'm not quite sure how...)


http://www.mikseri.net/artists/thejollynekromanseri.51046.php

http://www.mikseri.net/artists/bewaretheconstruct.62202.php

MT source files available if requested (maybe)
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Franklin van Uden
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26 2006 10:22    
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Ravana wrote:
I was wondering, should there also be an explanation of certain things... Like the filters. I mean, what actually does a filter do? Low-pass and high-pass are clear for anyone I guess, but what the heck is bi-notch, for example? Or peak?

(I would do it myself, but I'm not quite sure how...)


Madtracker fx window would be a good addition to the list indeed, maybe in combination with the automation "chapter" ..


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QBical
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26 2006 12:04    
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effects and automation must be different sections.
I want to do the effects next week, if you all don't mind Smile


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Franklin van Uden
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26 2006 12:07    
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QBical wrote:
effects and automation must be different sections.


Yes i agree on that, there are some fx related settings in the automation window though.
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I want to do the effects next week, if you all don't mind Smile


Cool!, finaly a little peek in qbicals kitchen Wink awesome Smile


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