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Prometheus-3
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Joined: 25 Nov 2006
Location: My house, Australia
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 Posted: Sun Jul 08 2007 04:32
Samplepack and stuff |
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You may not know that I asked Yannick if I could update the samplepack and create some VSTs for the next update. This is what I plan to do:
SAMPLEPACK
>Convert most samples to .ogg if the sample quality does not reduce to save space and convert stereo samples to mono if both sides are identical
>Add some more samples and some loops for newbs (mentioning that, I am going to put tutorials in the help file too, such as beatslicing, how to use Drumatic etc...)
VST
>Make some low CPU usage effects for more variety (they're performance orientated, not graphics orientated).
Feel free to have your say on this. I will provide links when I compile a test pack.
Alex |
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Psalm 97
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Joined: 24 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 09 2007 13:48
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Lossy is EVIL!!! 
Mono I can see if both channels are the same, but lossy formats are only fit for sending a song over the internet or loading a copy of my music collection to my digital player.
I do look forward to the other stuff though, especially the performance oriented VSTs. I have a test dummy computer I can beta-test on. |
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Prometheus-3
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Posted: Tue Jul 10 2007 04:09
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Lossy is EVIL!!! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
Mono I can see if both channels are the same, but lossy formats are only fit for sending a song over the internet or loading a copy of my music collection to my digital player.
I do look forward to the other stuff though, especially the performance oriented VSTs. I have a test dummy computer I can beta-test on.
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That's why I voted "maybe" for Ogg Vorbis compression. I would only do it on samples that remain unaffected to reduce the sample size...
As for the VSTs... visit http://daprometheus3.googlepages.com/vagabondvsti . That's the first released one, and the hyped up and faster version will be featured. I have almost finished a TB-303 emulator (Yes, with a 3 Pole filter) and a drum sampler/synthesiser similar to the Akai MPC, as well as some rather simple FX to add to the track effects.
Thanks for your comment however 
Alex
P.S. Like your Avatar 
-EDIT- Also look at http://daprometheus3.googlepages.com/prs3ppb-lpf (This is the filter I am going to use in my upcoming Hedroma synth and make a standalone too), http://daprometheus3.googlepages.com/tricectahedronvsti (Just released FM synth, upgrading it at the moment) and more to come! |
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Psalm 97
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Joined: 24 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 10 2007 16:05
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Reducing size I can see, but why not use a lossless compression instead? FLAC works well, the filesize is at most half the wav size, there is ZERO quality loss and dBpowerAMP Music Converter converts it back to wav for free. Just be sure you put a note in that the files are FLAC and will need to be decompressed to wav. |
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Prometheus-3
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Posted: Wed Jul 11 2007 04:23
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Hrmmz... I didn't think of that... but I do not think anyone will download an extra prog to decompress... (unless you have Renoise, that can read Flac)
Actually, I would like Flac support... |
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Psalm 97
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Posted: Thu Jul 12 2007 14:41
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Greedy
What's so hard about downloading a program to decompress it? dBpowerAMP is free, pretty small, fast, and any music nut should already have it anyway for converting from one format to another. Best freeware for the task I've found yet. |
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Ravana
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Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Oulu, Finland
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Frazze
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Joined: 12 Apr 2004
Location: Lund, Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jul 14 2007 13:17
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Agreed.
I think the samplepack should contain a few simpler samples also; most of those in it now are not very verstile. Plus, many of them are strange and difficult to use in a productive way. I can't really word it. |
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Sunbuster
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Location: Finland
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Posted: Sun Jul 15 2007 19:48
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Hmm, if memory serves me right, there is a version with and without the samples for download. I don't think it's a good idea to provide samples in a way it requires actions on the user to actually get them to use. People download software for testing and the easier it is to get the whole package going the better.
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Agree 100%. The idea of the sample pack that is bundled w. MadTracker is to give the downloaders an easy start at the program. But other than that you're right, the sample pack is a bit outdate, not very versatile and it should be renewed. |
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binärpilot
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Joined: 27 Aug 2004
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Posted: Mon Aug 20 2007 10:02
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I love the samplepack. Really, I've used it so many times I can't even remember. I'll buy whoever got it implemented a beer. Tiny? Sure. Some odd choices? Definitely. But great for sketching? You bet. Sometimes I don't even bother mounting the external disc and just sketch away using only the pack. And that's the point right? As it stands I think it more than serves it's purpose and doesn't need to change at all. There's ample resources available for both samples and VST's on the internet. I vote to keep it as it stands. Starting with trackers is confusing enough as it is, let's not over-complicate it for new users by adding too much. The samplepack is not intended for (semi-)pro users. At least that's not how I see it. |
Fucking awesome music for ninjas in space and shit |
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Walter Vos
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Location: Groningen, The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Aug 20 2007 11:12
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I'll buy whoever got it implemented a beer
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There's a snare in there that came from me, you used it in Goof... Can I get a sip of your beer? 
Prometheus, I love the fact that you're enthusiastic about MT, but I also think the sample pack should remain easy to use. Update: yes. Compress samples: no. |
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Sunbuster
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Posted: Tue Aug 21 2007 19:11
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I'll buy whoever got it implemented a beer
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There's a snare in there that came from me, you used it in Goof... Can I get a sip of your beer?
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My server space worked as the upload host for the stuff the rest of the community put together, and I made the initial draft pack, so maybe mee to can get a sip |
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G3ronimo
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Joined: 27 Dec 2005
Location: The Netherlands, Wezep
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Posted: Tue Aug 21 2007 22:47
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Im just fucking hot, Ill get a sip aswell
btw great to be back |
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Mastema
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Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: Soon to be there, but i am here
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Posted: Tue Sep 11 2007 04:58
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who uses .ogg in madtracker anyway?
it's all .wav format right?
you'd have to convert the ogg to wav. not like it would take that long to do on adobe edition
but it's just a step that doesn't need to happen. |
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Prometheus-3
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Joined: 25 Nov 2006
Location: My house, Australia
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Posted: Sat Sep 15 2007 07:51
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Sorry for not responding in a while guys... my education has been interfering with what I've been up to...
I haven't found many new things worthy of sampling, and most of the existing ones suck even when compressed at 112kb/s. And those VSTs keep on clocking too much CPU (I wonder what's wrong...).
I am still looking though.
Alex |
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