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vfgdfg
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Joined: 06 Jun 2003
Location: Finland

Posted: Sun May 23 2004 18:21 vst presets and envelopes
when I select some preset from a vst plugin and then I want to tweek it a bit the original preset seems to get messed up (it saves the changes I make to it) so how do I copy the preset to a new one before doing any changes? Another question is related to the envelope thingies some vsts seem to have, they are not in any sort of sync with MT which results in that it sounds different everytime I restart playing which isn't very good thing. I guess there is no way to sync them with MT?

vfgdfg
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Joined: 06 Jun 2003
Location: Finland

Posted: Wed May 26 2004 15:58
Thanks for all the help.

Yannick
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Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium

Posted: Wed May 26 2004 16:03
Re: vst presets and envelopes

Sorry, forgot about that one.

vfgdfg wrote:

when I select some preset from a vst plugin and then I want to tweek it a bit the original preset seems to get messed up (it saves the changes I make to it) so how do I copy the preset to a new one before doing any changes?

I think it depends a bit on the plugin itself. Actually I don't know how exactly other hosts deal with this case.

vfgdfg wrote:

Another question is related to the envelope thingies some vsts seem to have, they are not in any sort of sync with MT which results in that it sounds different everytime I restart playing which isn't very good thing. I guess there is no way to sync them with MT?

You mean LFO's?
Normally the BPM should be in sync (with some glitches sometimes).

Anyway, if you have a problem with a specific plugin, tell me which one and I'll give it a try.

Yannick

vfgdfg
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Joined: 06 Jun 2003
Location: Finland

Posted: Wed May 26 2004 17:13
Re: vst presets and envelopes

Yannick wrote:

I think it depends a bit on the plugin itself. Actually I don't know how exactly other hosts deal with this case.

Hmm, me neither Very Happy

How about creating completely new preset or is that plugin's work too?

Yannick wrote:

You mean LFO's?
Normally the BPM should be in sync (with some glitches sometimes).

Anyway, if you have a problem with a specific plugin, tell me which one and I'll give it a try.

It's called "Antares Filter". The bpm is alright but the problem is with the plugin's envelope, the envelope keeps running all the time, instead of being started when you start playing the song. Here is the demonstration of the results:

afdemo1.mp3
afdemo2.mp3

I just exported the thing and then I exported the same thing again. Compare them and you should get the idea.

I dunno what LFO is so I can't answer that question.

I'll try to catch you on irc for further details...

Blaster
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Netherlands/Germany

Posted: Thu May 27 2004 14:18
Re: vst presets and envelopes

Yannick wrote:

Sorry, forgot about that one.

vfgdfg wrote:

I think it depends a bit on the plugin itself. Actually I don't know how exactly other hosts deal with this case.

Yannick

It should be handled by the plugin I think, but only when you save it. You mean it updates the preset when you change it? That wouldn't be "normal" plugin behaviour. You could test it in another host if it acts the same or tell the name of this plugin so I can see for myself Smile

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Sunbuster
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Finland

Posted: Thu May 27 2004 20:22
Re: vst presets and envelopes

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I dunno what LFO is so I can't answer that question.

LFO = Low Frequency Oscillator = generates low frequencies, like 1 Hz, 5 Hz etc. Wink

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