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Franklin van Uden
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Joined: 26 Apr 2005
Location: The Netherlands

Posted: Sun Nov 13 2005 23:17

Atlantis wrote:

About Franklin's track, I mastered this quite a while ago, so I'm not sure what's happened there. I sent a sample back to him but never heard from him since, nor here for that matter. I think it turned out well, but the vocal would have worked better having come down a little in the mix after all, which I later suggested.

I'm back again, i am sorry for this terrible late reply but i was out of the country for work Confused

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I have three versions over here, the original , the Trillium version and Atlantis version.
The Atlantis version is by far the best master of this song IMO Dancing

, but just listen for yourself, and once again , thanx to Atlantis for taking the time and effort to send me the mastered sample !!
The original masters are 24/44.1 versions, these are 192 kbps MP3 versions!

Original version (MT mixdown render):
http://franklin.madtracker.net/temp/extreme_situation_original.mp3

Trillium sound version:
http://franklin.madtracker.net/temp/extreme_situation_trillium.mp3

Atlantis version:
http://franklin.madtracker.net/temp/extreme_situation_Atlantis.mp3

Franklin

Music ... is endless ... Work in progress ...

bigandymac
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Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Leeds UK

Posted: Mon Nov 14 2005 15:10
this has been a really interesting and helpful topic, so thanks to everyone who took the time to reply. I listened to the 3 mastered versions of franklins track. the atlantis one definately sounds the best as the mid high frequencies stand out more. Only thing is that the bass drum sounds a bit weird, like it is boinging (i cant find any word to describe it). other than that it sounds great. cheers andy

Martin
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Norway

Posted: Mon Nov 14 2005 16:09
Thanks for sharing your work guys! This was very interesting indeed, I think Atlantis did a great jobb enhancing the voice. And it seems he has less "waisted headroom" when comparing the graphs of the sounds. I agree with BigAndyMac that Atlantis`s version is the better - but both mastering enginneers certainly enhanced this song considerably.
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Atlantis
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Joined: 11 Feb 2005
Location: Hamilton, New Zealand

Posted: Tue Nov 15 2005 02:28
I noticed this thread received over 100 hits since Franklin last posted the samples, which seems a bit a worrying...or not. Anyway, thanks for the positive comments. Regarding the kick, I can only enhance what's already there, and the subtle processing I apply during mastering shouldn't necessarily change things a lot. Perhaps the multiband compressor enhanched it a little too much, although I believe I had my reasons for setting it up the way I did. Of course, it's no problem for me to change this should Franklin want me to. "Less wasted headroom" is a...nice way to look at it. Obviously, a point of mastering is to get the volume up to commercial standard, and I believe I've done so without sacrificing the quality. As you might see/hear, around 80% of mastering comes from the mix itself, and it just enhances the sound that extra 20% more. Notice the difference in stereo imaging too, by the way?
Atlantis [Atlantean Records] multiband professor/eq professor/Nur-Ab-Sal

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