Zak
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Joined: 08 Nov 2005
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 Posted: Tue Nov 08 2005 19:04
MIDI Export and tempo questions |
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Hello,
I’m new here and I need your advice and a few answers to my questions.
Lately I have to prepare some .mid files (and it seems I will have to make them quite often in a near future). As I’m a tracker addict the best way for me is to just convert tracker tracks into mids. But here the problem arises. So far I’ve been a Modplug user and I’m rather happy with it (especially channel manager and cleanup options are great – seems they don’t exist in MadTracker…), but when it comes to converting songs to mids Modplug fails. So I made a bit of research and MadTracker looks very nice. Anyway – I’ve read tutorials and searched forum but I still haven’t found what I’m looking for 
Could you please tell me how MadTracker converts song to .mid? I mean what kind of things are included. For sure tempo, notes, volume is probably converted to midi velocity, and pan is as well. I hope CC commands are also in a final mid file? And what about the automation? So please – could anyone tell me what exactly is included in the final .mid file and how channels/instruments are done?
The second question for now is the one concerning the tempo. Is MadTracker’s tempo accurate? Because most trackers had a problem with it so far. I mean – if I prepare for example a 150bpm loop, will it remain 150bpm (and not 150,006bpm) in sequencers like cubase or acid?
Looking forward to your answers. Thanks in advance.
All the best,
Zak |
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Inge
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Posted: Tue Nov 08 2005 19:49
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I'm currently at work so rather unable to answer your questions, but
CONGRATULATIONS!!! YOU ARE THE 1000TH MEMBER OF THIS FORUM! YOU GET A FREE CAR, A HOUSE, MY SISTER AND INFINITE RESOURCES OF KIRSTEN DUNST-RELATED DVD'S!
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QBical
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Posted: Tue Nov 08 2005 22:18
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oh jummy...  |
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Yannick
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Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium
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Posted: Tue Nov 08 2005 22:56
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I bet you don't give a s*** about being the 1000th member but want replies to your questions, right?
Here they are:
- To convert to MIDI, simply go in the File menu -> Export -> MIDI. You'll then have a window where you can map MT instruments to GM instruments. As you guessed, volume and panning are converted (only with a note-on event) - CC commands are not saved in the MIDI (I plan to add them though).
- If you enter 150 BPM you'll get exactly 150 BPM unlike in the other trackers.
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Inge
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Posted: Tue Nov 08 2005 23:26
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- If you enter 150 BPM you'll get exactly 150 BPM unlike in the other tracks.
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That is, unlike in other trackers. |
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Yannick
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Posted: Tue Nov 08 2005 23:39
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I don't see what you're talking about.
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Zak
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Joined: 08 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed Nov 09 2005 05:24
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Wow! 1000th member - quite a good reason to stay here for a longer time isn't it?  So when exactly I will get to know your sister?
Anyway - it's a pity that CC comands are not included in mids - without them it is impossible to prepare even a simple volume slide  Does it mean that Renoise is the only solution in this situation? Grrr - there's something that keeps me away from it, probably colors of their site
Thanks a lot for you answers!
Regards,
Z.
ps.: so let's say that such a wider midi export will be included in MT3 - how far are we from that moment - I mean is there any planned date of release or it is to early to give such statements? |
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Yannick
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Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed Nov 09 2005 09:27
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I'll include MIDI CC in the export in the next MT2 release, not MT3 - don't worry.
Yannick
(AFAIK, Renoise doesn't support MIDI export.) |
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Sunbuster
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Location: Finland
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Posted: Wed Nov 09 2005 09:34
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But dude, you're forgetting the cool thing. If all you want is something that you can put into Cubase for further processing, then why not simply hook up Madtracker in Cubase as a rewire slave/instrument? That way you don't even have to play with midi files. You can have the whole package playing on one or several tracks in Cubase instead, but still keep all the options that Madtracker gives Or am I missing something? |
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QBical
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Posted: Wed Nov 09 2005 10:44
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hmm kirsten dunst...
ehm, yeah I agree with sunbuster!
Grtz
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Inge
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Zak
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Joined: 08 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed Nov 09 2005 11:22
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I agree that Rewire mode is a really step forward with trackers. But in fact in my case it can’t help. Because I need midi files not exactly for me to work with but for other people and there’s even more to it – I need midi files to put them into hardware sequencer.
To be efficient with it I should learn how to use cubase and probably some virtual sampler to get the proper sounds. I won’t mention the sum of money I would need but what is more important – I’m a tracker addict and I will do everything I can not to change my methods. So that is why I’m searching for a solution in a tracker world.
Regarding renoise – I don’t know a lot about it, I’ve only read on their site that it has a full MIDI support so I thought that midi export exists as well. Seems I’ve been wrong
Regards,
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Sunbuster
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Posted: Wed Nov 09 2005 19:21
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aah, ok. In that case rewire probably can't help you |
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TOffe
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Posted: Wed Nov 09 2005 20:01
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Wow! 1000th member - quite a good reason to stay here for a longer time isn't it? So when exactly I will get to know your sister?
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Hmm, was that a prize Inge? I did a little research and found this while googling... looks like your sister could be a bit old right about now....
and it also looks like we can all agree that the myth about you beeing a girl is not only plausible but confirmed!!
- toffe the mad mythbuster |
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xiphiuz
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Posted: Thu Nov 10 2005 08:23
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oh jummy...
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yeah,. but are those b00bs real? |
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