Yannick
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Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium
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Yes, but think about the listeners (and the reviewers) who'll have to download the plugins.
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Inge
Man-At-Arms
Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland
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Posted: Sun Aug 28 2005 23:39
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If there are more like TNK, then we should definately consider increasing the amount of plugins. Nevertheless, I personally also find that Elijah's point is true. Or, to quote any past girlfriend: "oh, Inge, it's not the size that matters, it's what you do with it!".
Well. Nevermind that. The thing is that approximately 20 plugins can already cover quite a spectrum of possibilities, and therefore styles. If anything obvious is lacking, then we'll just add it. Don't worry, start voting!
P.S.: before this debate is going nowhere: please give examples of plugins that are *necessary* to create a certain style. Debating hypothetical problems doesn't lead anywhere. No offence, but I just wish to debate real problems, not hypothetical ones. |
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TNK / ATK project
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Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: Village-Neuf, France (Dont's search on the map, it's tiny...)
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Posted: Mon Aug 29 2005 01:26
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| Inge wrote: |
P.S.: before this debate is going nowhere: please give examples of plugins that are *necessary* to create a certain style. Debating hypothetical problems doesn't lead anywhere. No offence, but I just wish to debate real problems, not hypothetical ones.
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Exemples :
- Kjaerhus chorus --> Required to make nice guitar chords sounds (with tracked guitars, I mean). If you have other tips on how to acheive such a sound without that plugin (or without any other), let me know.
- The Simulanalog guitarsuite --> Any better free guitar amp around ?
I understand that, because of reviewing needs, the list of available plugins has to be narrowed down. But why narrowed down to 10 ? Couldn't it be more ?
We could atleast have 1-2 plugins of each kind in the selection (exemple : 1-2 choruses, 1-2 compressors, 1-2 guitar amps, 1-2 substractive synths,...).
Besides this, I've already casted my votes (in the plugins page this time) |
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oldbrian
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Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Location: hungary
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Posted: Sat Sep 03 2005 22:33
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votes casted on plugins that can be gotten only in a pack with other plugs will mean standalone casts (to that specific plug) or a vote on the whole pack (so all plugs from there can be used)? i`m for the latter  |
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binärpilot
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Joined: 27 Aug 2004
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Yannick
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Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon Sep 05 2005 11:51
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votes casted on plugins that can be gotten only in a pack with other plugs will mean standalone casts (to that specific plug) or a vote on the whole pack (so all plugs from there can be used)? i`m for the latter
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I suppose you refer to the Classic series? Yes, if a plugin is part of a pack, we won't alter the original packaging - so all the plugins will be there. I didn't really think about that when I announced the voting.
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Elijah
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Joined: 20 Jan 2004
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Eh?
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Posted: Wed Sep 07 2005 02:31
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I vote for no plugins. Old school rockers unite.
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haha... sweet. 
That's like the parents saying "Rap isn't really music!" |
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Frazze
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Joined: 12 Apr 2004
Location: Lund, Sweden
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Posted: Sat Sep 10 2005 10:18
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I can see why TNK wants more plug-ins, but I myself only ever use like 5 plug-ins (synths and effects).
15-20 VSTs is what I'd go for. |
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MagnarTBL
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Joined: 18 Jan 2005
Location: Ronneby, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Sep 22 2005 09:09
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I am very new to plugins, so I basically don't know what I need. The plugins I am using right now might as well be wrong for others that have tested "all there is to test" and found out which works and perform best in overall.
So, if I throws in some votes now, I might screw it up totally for the really good plugins that someone else voted for.
- I think I'll leave the voting to the pro's.
(And btw, listen to your parents: rap isn't music!) |
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Elijah
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Joined: 20 Jan 2004
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Eh?
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Posted: Sun Sep 25 2005 18:13
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(And btw, listen to your parents: rap isn't music!)
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i could fight this till the cows came home
start a topic, i dare you. |
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xenomorph disturbance
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Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Groninge(Holland)
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Posted: Mon Sep 26 2005 21:27
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why in god's name,is vst added in madtracker?
Will i be abble in the future to keep using the tracker,or will madtracker be in the future a programm like fl studio,reason,cubase etc......
please keep the tracker section,i hate vst and i never use it or will use it in the future:) |
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xenomorph disturbance
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Location: Groninge(Holland)
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Posted: Mon Sep 26 2005 21:29
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I vote for no plugins. Old school rockers unite.
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From da F#@king Northside!!! |
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Inge
Man-At-Arms
Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland
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Posted: Mon Sep 26 2005 21:35
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why in god's name,is vst added in madtracker?
Will i be abble in the future to keep using the tracker,or will madtracker be in the future a programm like fl studio,reason,cubase etc......
please keep the tracker section,i hate vst and i never use it or will use it in the future:)
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No one forces you to use vst plugins. Yannick is pretty hardcore concerning the tracker-interface, so he'll probably won't simply give that up. Just neglect the green&red-vst button. You might wanna typ-ex that area blank. |
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xenomorph disturbance
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Location: Groninge(Holland)
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Posted: Mon Sep 26 2005 21:39
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if the tracker area stays,i'm satisfied 
i just want to have the feeling that i do things myself,and not the programm,if you know what i mean 
in other words,i take the bycicle(or is it bicycle? ),others take their car... |
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Elijah
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Joined: 20 Jan 2004
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Eh?
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Posted: Tue Sep 27 2005 04:09
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haha. this could turn into a whole thread...
vst's are great to use for solid synths with good volume and filter envelopes. for those of us poor saps that can't sample from our own hardware synths. I personally like vst because i can create my own sounds instead of searching days/weeks looking for that *one sample*.
but on the other hand some like to do it oldschool. |
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