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My next computer will be a
PC Desktop
45%
 45%  [ 11 ]
PC Notebook
29%
 29%  [ 7 ]
Apple MacBook
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Apple MacBook Pro
20%
 20%  [ 5 ]
Apple iMac
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Apple Mini
4%
 4%  [ 1 ]
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CHICAGO€lollie
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09 2006 07:23    
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It better be cheaper than an MP3 player!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09 2006 07:24    
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mechanism wrote:
StyrmanLjungberg wrote:
Today, everything that can be done on a PC can be done on a mac ;D

New Macs run an emulator for OSX, making them 4 times slower than they could have been. They are the same speed as my friends mac laptop who bought his computer 3 years ago.

That emulator is called Rosetta, and it's only necessary for software that hasn't been compiled for the x86-instruction set of the Intel cpu. A comparison between software performance in native mode and in Rosetta can be found here. Especially interesting is the comment:
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Plus, running Geekbench under Rosetta is comparable to running Geekbench natively on a Power Mac G5 1.6GHz (our baseline system), at least in the single-threaded tests.


Some benchmarking that compares the Intel Core Duo with the G4 can be found here. As a summary, the Intel is better than the G4 in universal applications (so where they can both used non-emulated software). The list of Apple-software and their status of being made universal can be found here.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09 2006 12:25    
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In the multimedia-school where I studied a couple of years ago, we had nothing but Mac. We (the students) often complained about it, since we all had pc's at home and that's what we were used to, but after the first year we all came to realise that Mac is the obvious choice when working professionally with multimedia and graphics. I've never worked with a more stable computer than the G5's we had. The only downside I can remember was that 3dsmax didn't work on anything else than pc at the time.

Audiobahn Records in Copenhagen also uses Mac in their studio and everything worked flawlessly the last time I was there.

Off course I will probably never be able to afford a Mac, but if I was to buy a new computer today (and if money was no object) I would buy a mac without a doubt.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09 2006 13:57    
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mechanism wrote:

New Macs run an emulator for OSX, making them 4 times slower than they could have been. They are the same speed as my friends mac laptop who bought his computer 3 years ago.


Well this is not true.

OSX was developed from the ground up to run on both PowerPC and Intel processors, so, osx runs great on the new intel chips, it's just that other programs that you'd want to run ( like photoshop ) are not yet recoded to what apple calles "universal binary" versions, those versions take advantage of the x86 chips. But as I said some programs aren't recoded yet so for those programs there is indeed an emulator 'Rosetta', wich makes the PPC software run on an intel mac.

But lot's of software is already available for the intel mac, and OSx is definatly not emulated it runs a lot faster on a macbook pro then on my powerbook.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11 2006 23:19    
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Jimm wrote:
, does anyone want to buy a good ol' Macintosh, with 8 megs of RAM and a 300 MB hard drive?? Laughing


burn it , BURN IT , you have fun i promise ... and don't forget to post the vid here Very Happy


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Walter Vos
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19 2007 22:29    
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I hear people saying 'almost everything that can be done on a pc can be done on a mac too these days'. That seems like a lame argument to me. How about 'everything that can be done on a mac can be done on a pc nowadays'?

I haven't looked into the whole mac vs pc debate, and I know nothing of the macbook in question here. I know that for an allround computer (laptop or desktop) I want something that will do the job. Now, if I had a recording studio and wanted ProTools I would definitely have a mac (like we had on the SAE institute ProTools Studio). Or maybe if you're a graphic artist. But even then...


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20 2007 06:09    
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I'd get a mac, but they are too damn expensive (My limit's $2500AU) and apparently slow as all hell. Do they still have the single button mouse too? Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20 2007 06:38    
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NOOOOOOO, not this thread again! Can't we please let it die? Every forum I go to, EVERY ONE has this thread. Waaaaaahh!

Look, it's very simple.
Get a Mac if you want a system that all the components work well together. It will be a bit limited, but you will have virtually no compatibility issues. Mac makes it all.

Get a PC if you want versatility. You can do a lot more with a PC, there's a whole world of options. You might have to hunt for drivers to make something work, but if it doesn't work you can usually find another way to do what you want anyway.

Now please, please, PLEASE let this subject die. Ten years of this argument is more than enough.


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Walter Vos
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20 2007 10:40    
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LOL I never noticed this topic was old. I did a search for Vista on the forum and this was one of the returned results. Sorry Isaac Wink


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20 2007 14:56    
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About Vista, if you haven't gotten it yet..... DON'T! Wait a year or so, let everyone else find all the bug, look for the drivers. Let everyone else find out the answers; that way when you do get Vista and get that error message, you can just google it Very Happy.


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Walter Vos
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20 2007 19:28    
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Eh, I've been running Vista for almost a couple of days now....

You're right about the drivers btw. M-Audio doesn't have Vista drivers yet. But I figure they will soon enough. Also, Vista doesn't run flawless yet, but I haven't had many problems either.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21 2007 15:31    
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Hey guys! I just bought a MacBook Pro only to run madtracker on it, what dya think of that? I own a g4 powerbook but it didnt run windows fast enough, finally i can make music again:D Just hate pc.. If I could choose : Madtracker would be an OSX only app.

And finally a bit off topic, check out http://cobolt.no where youŽll find that my band has released an album made with a lot of help from madtracker. Feel free to comment!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22 2007 08:16    
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cobolt wrote:
If I could choose : Madtracker would be an OSX only app.

**** why port to apple when almost everyone can't afford one? Odd!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22 2007 17:42    
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Prometheus-3 wrote:
cobolt wrote:
If I could choose : Madtracker would be an OSX only app.

**** why port to apple when almost everyone can't afford one? Odd!


Hey, just my dream, nothing serious ok? Very Happy Actually I would rather be sitting on an Amiga right now, but hey, dreams are fun!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31 2007 21:22    
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Madtracker as an OSX app would make my very happy, would finaly give me a chance to leave windows behind me...

Anyhow, don't use Vista, ever...


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