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Vertikal
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Madrid (Spain)

Posted: Wed Sep 10 2003 20:29 Tell me what is the best song for you!
Hi everybody, I would like feedback about my songs. Please, enter http://vertikal.madtracker.net and tell me what song is the best for you. Thank you!
Greetings, VertiKal

CHICAGO¤lollie
Registered User

Joined: 05 May 2003

Posted: Thu Sep 11 2003 11:52
I'm just downloading Leticia now. I'll tell you what I think of it when it's finished edit_one: The verdict for Leticia? Nice, good beat, smooth tune, I like it I like how the drums come into it I also like the drumloop that appears at 0:31 of the song Next on the list is Brasil edit_two: Brasil, one word that can sum up my reactions to this tune? *DUDE!!!* The intro beat is cool, the intro dance beat addition at 0:14 is cool, the... look, I like it It's all cool!! Next up: Move edit_three_last_for_tonight: Move does sound like one of those "running from something" tunes you'd hear in... hmm... Well, movies like "Run Lola Run" (I want to see a sequel of that movie happening soon! I know, wishful thinking...). Definately trance, cool Yeah yeah, I know, everything's cool I'm tired from sleep deprivation, so I think I'll add onto this in the morning. But at the moment, I can say "Great work! You've done well!"

Vertikal
Registered User

Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Madrid (Spain)

Posted: Thu Sep 11 2003 15:23 Thank you Chicago!
First of all, thank you very much for hearing my songs. I like you like them. But, do you think they have the quality for recording a CD? What aspects do you think I have to improve? Thank you again for your opinion.
Greetings, VertiKal

Inge
Man-At-Arms

Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland

Posted: Thu Sep 11 2003 16:05
I've been listening numerous of your songs, and I think the one I like best (from the point of commercial listening) would be vertikal.mp3. You show talent in the ways to make your songs sound commercial and smooth, giving them that popular blend. What you tend to miss (in all your songs) is the power to pass existing borders of production, and to expand them. Try being less conventional, and try not to duplicate the trance sound that is already published in the charts. You need your own sound in order to stand out in a crowd of producers, and your sound is a bit flat at the moment. Try searching for less conventional but yet catchy samples (and not always the same sweeping trance leads). Another thing would be your drum programming. It sounds a bit dull here, with little more than a bassdrum and a hihat. Try spicing things up with more exotic samples, such as drumkits and bongo's. End conclusion: no, your songs aren't ready for releasing right now. Your strong points are to be found in melody programming, song structures, choice of sounds (to suit the purpose) and technical usage of the program. Negative are your lack of own identity and a too flat sound. Just my thoughts. Hardcore drum 'n bass / acid techno boys aren't always right about trance Inge
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Sunbuster
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Finland

Posted: Thu Sep 11 2003 18:17
Have to agree with Inge on most parts here. The biggest issue I see with your tunes is that there's nothing new in them, nothing that would catch the listener and get them to think "now here's a new way to make music". They have a very commercial sound, so you've got that part right, but this also means, like Inge said, that no boundaries are broken. I could give you 10 tunes that sound like your "vertikal" right away (ain't gona do it though). Another example, take "brasil". Right when I heard the first couple of notes I was thinking "Safri Duo", I wasn't thinking "newer heard this before". As far as production audio quality goes I don't think you've got anything to worry about. More variation to the drums could be good though. Out of the ones I heard I liked "bongos" the best. However, I'm sorry to say that I wouldn't buy any of the tunes if they were in a store somewhere, simply because they all seem to sound like stuff I've heard a hundred times.

Yannick
MadTracker Author

Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium

Posted: Thu Sep 11 2003 18:59
You have the potential to succeed indeed. As Inge and Sunbuster said, you only need to build yourself a musical identity. You master the technology, you know how to make things sound good, you know how to make good melodies, you just need to drift away from the common paths. Don't be afraid to expirement and don't be afraid that something won't sound "clean". Just try and explore. If you manage this, I am sure you can make yourself a big name in the tracking scene and even in the commercial music industry if you work a lot on it. Keep it up! Yannick

Vertikal
Registered User

Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Madrid (Spain)

Posted: Thu Sep 11 2003 20:45 Thank you everybody!
Hi, Sunbuster, Inge, Yannick: Thanks for listening to my songs, and say me your opinion about that. It´s true: I agree with you. I think they sound like hundred of songs. But is very difficult to make something new in this way. I will try to experiment, and to make something special, though I have not ever studied music or composition. I think this is my lack.( And also I need to buy new samples. What do you recomend me?). Thank you again. I´ll try to improve myself.
Greetings, VertiKal

Inge
Man-At-Arms

Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland

Posted: Thu Sep 11 2003 21:05
Don't blindfocus on the opinions of others: in the end, you are the one that should feel satisfied with your own songs. Vsti's are a great start to build up your own unique library of sounds. Massive plugins, such as the pro53, refx and Absynth, in combination with the Chainer plugin to export the waves from them, will enable you to make virtually unlimited amount of unique samples. Try downloading these vsti's somewhere (most of them work as standalone programs), and play around with them till you think you master them properly. After that, export the sounds you programmed to wave with Chainer, and use them for your compositions. Literature in the 17th century worked on the foundation of translatio - imitatio - emulatio. You already got the first two in line (you know how to make music, and how to imitate the style that you prefer). The last one, emulatio, is the hardest one: it implies changing your template into your unique version of it. Good luck! Inge
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