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		Future Tribe 
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			 Posted: Thu Nov 06 2003 20:11     Dubstar remixed :) | 
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			 [url=http://clan.hot.ee/eq/upload/Dubstar%20-%20When%20The%20World%20Knows%20Your%20Name%20(Future%20Tribe%202003%20Remake)%20v0.4.mp3]Click here[/url]
 
 
When I first heard the original version, I knew there was something missing    (well, it's quite an old tune, I don't know how many of you know it).
 
It's like I had two options, either overlay it with a d'n'b beat or a happy hardcore beat. I chose the latter   . I don't know, seems like most of you guys here like dnb rather than rave, but you should still dl it and have a listen    
 
And, umm... tell me what you think   
 
 
and of course, it was made 100% in Madtracker   
 
 
greets,
 
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		Sunbuster 
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			 Posted: Thu Nov 06 2003 21:11    
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			 You wouldn't happen to have the original lying around somewhere?   
 
 
Your remix, sounds cool, although I'm not quite sure about the vocals. Simply because they somehow sound too slow for this kind of music, maybe you should helium them up a bit     
 
 
No, but seriously, the music in it self sounds cool. Although I'm not a big fan of happy hardcore anymore, there was a time when Dune, DJ Paul Elstak, Charly Lownoise & Menthal Theo and so on where all I knew about   But like I said, somehow the vocals sound too slow for this beat, even though they are on beat all the way. But still, nice work, now I could just get the original...    | 
		 
		
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		Future Tribe 
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			 Posted: Thu Nov 06 2003 22:07    
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			 First of, thanks for your positive words   
 
 
I uploaded the original version, just go to http://clan.hot.ee/eq/upload you'll find the mp3 there (ignore all the other stuff there). There's also a rar-ed up 30 Mb MT2 version there   
 
 
Now, the vocals *are* slow, actually even slower than in the original, but when I pitched them one octave higher (and still maintaining the speed, whitch btw took 2 hours on my Pentium 2    ), they were too high.. And I wouldn't want to remove them also since they are somewhat an essence of this track  
 
 
Anyway, feel free to further edit (or completely rewrite) this tune, if you're willing to download the MT2 version  
 
 
cheers and thanks for the feedback,
 
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			 Posted: Fri Nov 07 2003 00:40    
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			 YES! Happy hardcore! The stuff of legend  
 
 
About the vocals, here's an interesting quote.
 
 
 
	| The Music Instructor wrote: | 
 
	
 
Now it's time to introduce the main vocal... 
 
 
... listen how it sounds when we pitch them five (5) notes up.
 
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I think, out of own experience, 5 halfnotes are meant here. Pitching it up for more than an half octave usually don't give satisfying results.
 
 
So it's up to you if you wanna spend time doing this (2 hours??  ). But I think you should if it gives the happy hardcore sound I love.
 
 
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		Future Tribe 
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			 Posted: Fri Nov 07 2003 13:01    
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			 Hey Blaster,
 
 
I did as you suggested, pitched the vocal 5 half-notes up (it took a couple of hours, but it's not like I had anything better to do anyway  ) At first it sounded kinda goofy, cuz I had to pitch everything else melodic in the tune too. But now, having listened to it i-don't-know-how-many times, it sounds pretty good (partially because I was already bored with the old version anyway   ).
 
 
Imho, there are still a couple of things that need to be fixed tho. I think it needs some strings or synths to the lower freq. range. Especially for the parts without the vocals... And the bass may be a bit too loud as it is now...
 
And the ending doesn't feel right, comes a bit too suddenly.
 
 
Anyway, [url=http://clan.hot.ee/eq/upload/Dubstar%20-%20When%20The%20World%20Knows%20Your%20Name%20(Future%20Tribe%202003%20Remake)%20v0.5.mp3]here is the link for the pitched version[/url]. Give it a listen, and comments are of course welcome   
 
 
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		Sunbuster 
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			 Posted: Fri Nov 07 2003 20:43    
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			 The pitched version does sound better in my ears at least   | 
		 
		
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			 Posted: Fri Nov 07 2003 23:14    
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			 Glad to help, I will download this version and give you my feedback on it. Though it might take a few days..
 
 
Update:
 
Got it and the vocals sound are nicely pitched. But IMHO the song needs some mastering (at least this is what I have to say after listening to it on my setup): the lead instrument is too loud and maybe not happy/playful enough (uh I mean I don't really get a energetic happy feeling from it, it's kinda nagging. Maybe this is resolved when it's a bit lower in volume in the mix). The vocals tend to get lost, I really can't hear what is being sung unless I'd really concentrate. The kickdrum might be a bit louder, to give the song more energy. No problems with the bass though. 
 
 
Well, I'd love to hear the final version. | 
		 
		
			
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