MadTracker - Forum - Normalize tracks...how?

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Universe
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Joined: 16 Mar 2004
Location: Spain

Posted: Wed Mar 17 2004 00:00 Normalize tracks...how?
Hi all, I was wondering if someone could tell me what procedures do you use to copy different tracks from different sources in a CD and keep the same volume in all the tracks. Thnx.

Elijah
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Joined: 20 Jan 2004
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Eh?

Posted: Wed Mar 17 2004 00:40 Re: Normalize tracks...how?
are you talking about splitting up a song on a compact disk and taking every different track they used to create the cd ... dont think that IS possible
- Elijah

Inge
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland

Posted: Wed Mar 17 2004 00:50
He didn't talk about that: he talked about mastering your songs, so that their rms level gets the same throughout one cd. There are many tools available to achieve that results, such as limiters, compressors, maximizers and so on. Waves (the brand, not the sea) has made quite some impressive packages for the goal you have in mind: http://www.waves.com/ For techstuff: check out http://www.computermusic.co.uk/tutorial/dynamics/3.asp and other tutorials and explanations down at http://www.computermusic.co.uk/main.asp. Inge
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technoid
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Joined: 21 Sep 2003
Location: Oregon USA

Posted: Wed Mar 17 2004 02:51
CDex can also normalize, though I've never tried it. It's open source, so it's free. Go to http://www.cdex.n3.net. Just one of those nice tools I found on Maz's site. Goldwave is another tool that comes to mind.
~techie

Blaster
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Netherlands/Germany

Yannick
MadTracker Author

Joined: 16 Apr 2003
Location: Belgium

Posted: Wed Mar 17 2004 10:04
You can use the SourceForge homepage instead. Yannick

technoid
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Joined: 21 Sep 2003
Location: Oregon USA

Posted: Wed Mar 17 2004 14:17
Oops. Actually it's not a dead link. The period at the end (of the sentence) got automatically included into the url. Here... http://www.cdex.n3.net (Ha, I fooled the url parser!)
~techie

Inge
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland

Posted: Wed Mar 17 2004 17:54

technoid wrote:

(Ha, I fooled the url parser!)

You master of digital disaster...big up!~ Mr. Green

Za!ppa
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Joined: 26 Jun 2003
Location: Denmark

Posted: Thu Mar 18 2004 10:00
How about normalizing the filters in the same way? Are there also programs for that? F.e. if you have made a kicking track which roxx on your own speakarz, but they suck on other speekars. (too deep or not deep enuf) It would be nice if they rocked on 'normal' speakers. Is there a way to (more or less) automate that process (or make it simple)? (i'm guessing "no", but just trying to ask anyway - sound theory has suprised me enough times, that i can't guess what's possible anymore )

Sunbuster
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Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Finland

Posted: Thu Mar 18 2004 11:17
the short answer: no! the whole process of mastering (and mixing) a track is to make a track sound as good as possible on as many different kinds of setups as possible. There is no way to automate this because every speaker system is different, every listening room is different, every listening situation is different. The only way to get a track to sound as good as possible is to try it out on as many systems as possible, take notes on what works and what doesn't and then make compromises in the mix/mastering. You will not be able to make a mix that sounds perfect on every setup, that's why you should aim to make a mix that sounds good on most systems, not on one set of hifi-speakers. This is also why most pro-studios have a set of consumer model speakers also, in addition to the 2000�/piece studio monitors they use for mixing. Then they can quickly A/B check their mix on consumer level speakers to see if the mix works on those, and thus if it's even likely the mix will sound good in most people's homes. Over time you'll learn how your setup sounds compared to the rest of the world, and then you won't have to do as much listening on various systems to check for errors. But as I said, that only comes with experience.

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