Inge
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Funny: martin interprets 1 as an opinion, whereas powerdown interprets 2 as an opinion.
Please support me mentally when you realize that I do these kinds of experiments quite often. I wish mankind was more universal!
Mikx: thanks for the info. The sentence used is adviced by a university student English though, and I have little reason to discard either her as your opinion. I'll just harvest and harvest information until I find a nice blend 
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Powerdown
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Joined: 01 Feb 2004
Location: Kampuhhh The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 05 2004 15:16
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| Inge wrote: |
Funny: martin interprets 1 as an opinion, whereas powerdown interprets 2 as an opinion.
Please support me mentally when you realize that I do these kinds of experiments quite often. I wish mankind was more universal!
Mikx: thanks for the info. The sentence used is adviced by a university student English though, and I have little reason to discard either her as your opinion. I'll just harvest and harvest information until I find a nice blend
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No you ....... 
I said that #1 looks more like an opinion to me.
I think that #2 looks more professional.
It looks clear to me if i say '#1 looks more like an opinion to me' that i mean that #1 looks more like an opinion to me.
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Inge
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Posted: Wed May 05 2004 15:18
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Ah, yes, mixed those two up. Sorry about that.
The essence of the story remains the same: interpretations of the same content differ. A lot. A very very much of a lot lot. Quite much, actually.
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mikx
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Posted: Wed May 05 2004 15:28
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| Inge wrote: |
Mikx: thanks for the info. The sentence used is adviced by a university student English though, and I have little reason to discard either her as your opinion. I'll just harvest and harvest information until I find a nice blend
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hehe.. oh well. i'm no expert at enrish.. the second paragraph looks more 'right' to me though. either way, i hope you kick some ass!
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Za!ppa
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Posted: Wed May 05 2004 16:51
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Amazing what a little "bacause" can do!! ha ha! Lemme just go ahead and write a little novel then:
I think #2 sounds a bit too smartass-ish.. Maybe a bit manipulative... While it's true that you don't NEED them, they're not totally useless, which i think the sentence in #2 implies a bit more than #1. (you don't really need the tracker-interface either - you could go with pianoroll instead if you wanted. So i guess it's supposed to be an oppinion about what is best, not an obviously true statement that says "you don't NEED pianoroll/matrix")
#1 is a bit more the reasoning kind.. It doesn't have these features BECAUSE you don't need them. I like the continuity of that - there's a connection between this sentence and the previous ones. Also it sounds less smartass.  ...And a bit more like an oppinion (for some reason) - which is good, since i guess it's meant as one. (unless you wanted to state an obvious fact)
(allthough it's not correct written-english to begin a sentence with "because" i think it's better than merging the two sentences. Who the fuk cares about correct written-english?!)
Not that i care really, and i haven't analyzed it, but this is like somewhere around my impression of 'em, when i read it.. Which i guess was what you wanted.
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Inge
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Posted: Wed May 05 2004 17:03
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Za!ppa: start studying linguistic pragmatics on a university nearby, and you will dream in these things
I'm happy with all these responses! It's almost impossible to say in advance if a text will work, and how individual elements work. I just read an article of sixteen (  ) pages about the word 'because', and I - appearantly - still can't make a proper judgement. Yannick said that the text without 'because' is better, I said that the one with 'because' is better. Most votes go for without 'because', so all this knowledge I have consumed by reading turns out to be futile
I would be pleased to do these small experiments more often in the future for texts that I write for MadTracker. Peer group reviewing is the only way to open up the black box of comprehension of the reader, and I think it's a fun thing to do.
Like Za!ppa, feel free to write down additional comments. I'm planning to get my master degree next year on the topic of 'non-linguists review texts', so this is a quite nice introduction for myself towards that project
Inge
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David Swain
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Posted: Wed May 05 2004 17:05
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#2 fo shizzle |
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