BeatMax
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Location: Germany
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 Posted: Sun Jun 20 2004 11:19
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@NON: I absolutely agree with you. The sound is what counts and not how it is created.
@ David: You play the guitar very well.  |
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N0N
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Joined: 20 Oct 2003
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Posted: Sun Jun 20 2004 16:30
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LOL , my bad I'll leave that. last night was so awsome  , so waisted, and am hung the F**k over. peace  passin back out. |
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TOffe
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Posted: Sun Jun 20 2004 17:18
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@NON: I absolutely agree with you. The sound is what counts and not how it is created.
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well, I for one care if a song is made in ejay or simular proggies |
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Blaster
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TOffe
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Posted: Sun Jun 20 2004 23:01
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Can you tell then?
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I don't think that is the point whether you can tell the difference or not. But if I am informed that a song is made out of just loops and the artist more or less just did the arrangement then I would feel less for the song yes, cause I would know it couldn't have been the artists feelings or thoughts that inspired the peice, It would loose some glamour in my view of it.
But to answer your question, no, I would never be able to tell if the song was made in ejay or not. At least not if I didn't start to use ejay and browse through all the loops and bars of music. But I'm not up for dedicating my life for that...... |
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Inge
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Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: Nieuw Lekkerland @ Holland
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Posted: Sun Jun 20 2004 23:33
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Same here. I love artists how do stuff themselves. For instance, Sting, Phil Collins, Orbital and Dave Grohl are people highly respected by me for the fact that they can build something from scratch. If I knew that the Police was nothing more than an aggregate of pre-compiled riffs, then I would like their music less than I do now.
Conclusion: my opinion of an artist does influence the perception of their music. If I know that someone made something with eJay, then I'll know that the producer did little more than putting the pieces together.
All eJay-users: *never* admit you are one. Mumble something about Reason, MadTracker-programmed drumloops and Native Instruments, and you're set and done to become highly respected 
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N0N
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Posted: Tue Jun 22 2004 14:06
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yea, but thats how the big guys got that way, if a persons using ejay or whatever and makes it big, more power to them. Just cause they used some one elses riffs dont mean crap, its how its arranged that deturmines the peaks and lows of a song, and thats were the cool things happen, in the changes to get from low to high or high to low.
I mean you dont have to use thier riffs at all, thier all *.wav files anyways. which means that its no different then using a 3 chord song that holds the 3rd cord just a hair longer then some other riff (with only 36 possable cominations) we've hurd before, simpley because 3 cord songs only have 3 cords and thier are only so many cords. Does that make it fare for radio head, who uses 3 cords but slows them down so much that its more about rythum, cause you can do that too, to a riff.
see to me a riff is meaningless, yea you can get into a riff, I do all the time with my keyboard. but thats the point, when i jump on keyboard I can create 30 riffs in just one sitting (being a classical pianist and all, well thats what I play anyways) and well any one of them could be from some other song I've never hurd before, but even you might never tell just cause of how its arranged and the previous riffs before it and the volume of it.
music is way to simple to be judgemental about a program, me I'am all against using fruityloops but I'm not going to hate or think less of someones music because of that. the only thing that matters is sound and if you can protray something new from that, then more power, no great power is bestowed on you. This is way off topic, sorry David Swain. |
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