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Qaantar
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08 2005 01:37    
Oscilloscope delays
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Howdy, newbie questions here... I did search the forum first, but couldn't find anything.

When installing the latest version, I noticed the "config" .mt2 file, so decided to check it out. The first thing I noticed is that in Pattern 01, Track 03 (the analog filter boost on the bass drum) -- I get a different sound depending on what my buffer size is at. Is that normal? (sometimes it's high frequency, other times it's low...). What's it supposed to sound like?

That then led me to notice that my oscilloscopes are WAY off on timing (about 1 second or so). I've been tinkering with the buffer sizes and what-not, but can't get anything to speed up the oscilloscope display. Any ideas here? (i've got a 3.4 Ghz processor with 1 Gb ram).
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Inge
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08 2005 08:59    
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Qaantar wrote:
Howdy, newbie questions here... I did search the forum first, but couldn't find anything.


Feel welcome!

Qaantar wrote:
When installing the latest version, I noticed the "config" .mt2 file, so decided to check it out. The first thing I noticed is that in Pattern 01, Track 03 (the analog filter boost on the bass drum) -- I get a different sound depending on what my buffer size is at. Is that normal? (sometimes it's high frequency, other times it's low...). What's it supposed to sound like?


Indeed! Quite odd, since the buffers should not influence the actual sound. Yannick?

Another thing I found is that you can obtain a very cool distortion by increasing the amount of clicking that occurs by using buffer=2 & buffersize=2. Very Aphex Twin'ish!

Qaantar wrote:
That then led me to notice that my oscilloscopes are WAY off on timing (about 1 second or so). I've been tinkering with the buffer sizes and what-not, but can't get anything to speed up the oscilloscope display. Any ideas here? (i've got a 3.4 Ghz processor with 1 Gb ram).


Odd. Normal settings would be buffers=4 & buffer size=10 or 15. Track 4 in pattern 0 should give a nice way to test the speed of visual playback. It's almost identical to the sound playback with 4x15.


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Yannick
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10 2005 09:17    
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The difference you heard with the analog filter is probably due to its large period. If you play the pattern in loop, it won't sound the same on each iteration because the LFO of the filter is not in sync with the pattern length. So this is not related to the buffer size according to me.

About the delay in the oscilloscopes, I've noticed it as well. It is when there is a track effect applied on that track. I'll see to fix this little bug.

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Qaantar
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11 2005 02:32    
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Inge wrote:

Another thing I found is that you can obtain a very cool distortion by increasing the amount of clicking that occurs by using buffer=2 & buffersize=2. Very Aphex Twin'ish!

Odd. Normal settings would be buffers=4 & buffer size=10 or 15. Track 4 in pattern 0 should give a nice way to test the speed of visual playback. It's almost identical to the sound playback with 4x15.


Haha, that distortion's very nice (at buffer=2, size=2)! Though, it reminds me when I remarked to a tracker that his samples sounded low-quality, and it turns out (oops) that the static was on purpose. Embarassed hehehe

Thanks for the input and assistance, Inge and Yannick!
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